Mentally Oddcast Transcript: Novelist and Digital Creator: Rhiannon

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Wednesday Lee Friday

You are listening to The Mentally Oddcast. My name is Wednesday Lee Friday, and we ask that you do find us on Ko-fi, that's K-O hyphen F-I, where we are still listed as sometimes hilarious horror. This week, we are speaking with Rhiannon, and Rhiannon is a digital creator and writer who is perhaps better known by her burlesque tagline, the wickedest witch in the Midwest. She lives with trauma and ADHD and has graciously offered to give us her time today. So welcome, Rhiannon.


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Rhiannoon

Howdy! uh Update on that, I was recently diagnosed with BPD as well. So.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh, how fun. well We'll definitely get into that then.


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Rhiannoon

yeah


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Wednesday Lee Friday

But first, um well, you're probably a regular listener, so you know that we always start by asking guests to tell us about the first horror movie that they remember seeing.


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Rhiannoon

but


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Wednesday Lee Friday

So let's have it. okay


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Rhiannoon

um So the first horror movie I actually remember seeing was... I can't remember which Alien movie it was. When I was sitting, I was three years old. And I do remember this very decent pretty well. I was three years old. I was sitting with my dad in our crappy little apartment.


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Rhiannoon

and my Mom came home and had this whole wig out because I was. watching A horror movie. I... I thought she was afraid of the movie on TV and I just turned to mom.


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Rhiannoon

And I said, It's okay, Mommy. It's... just a movie. And I went back to Washington.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

ah


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Rhiannoon

Like nothing happened. like like It did not occur to me at the tender age of three years old my mother was freaking out because my poor teeny tiny eyeballs was watching this violence. i did not even It once intervened.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow. okay


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Rhiannoon

So, yeah.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, you know, that's really interesting because...


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Rhiannoon

was


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Wednesday Lee Friday

ah I saw Alien in the theater. Or no, I'm sorry, at the drive-in. And ah my mom had a really liberal attitude toward what we were allowed to watch.


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Rhiannoon

um


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Wednesday Lee Friday

But that was one of the few movies that during the big scene in the mess hall. with Kane. She did not want me to see that. She absolutely did not want to me to see.


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Rhiannoon

look She changed her mind.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

the you know disastrous horror C-section of birth from...


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Rhiannoon

Yeah.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

ah From the.


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Rhiannoon

but the chest rooster.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

So. Wow, so did that did that stick with you like it sounds like the experience stuck with you more than the movie itself


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Rhiannoon

but It's just I was desensitized. I don't know why I was desensitized without even being sensitive to it. Like it was just like, like my dad just. i remember my dad going honey it's just a movie none of this is real I'm like okay.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, see, i i was I did not understand that when I was three. I was probably twice that age by the time I understood it. And even then, it was because someone sat me down and explained very slowly and carefully while I was crying about the guy on the TV who had just been killed by the killer bees that that it's not real and that that guy is still alive.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

But the thing is...


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Rhiannoon

Not the bees.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

We didn't have the internet then, so I'm like, are you sure he's still alive? My poor stepdad is like...


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Rhiannoon

ah not the beach.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, i I think so. I don't know him. I don't know. just like see you don't even know if he's alive You liar!


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Rhiannoon

Right?


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Rhiannoon

I think it might have helped that you know we watched... um Ghostbusters that hat also had Sigourney Weaver in it. ah but funny


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay, yeah, that'll help.


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Rhiannoon

oh So, but... but Looking back. I'm pretty sure that that was like a big sign of being like Audie HD. My dad just said, this isn't real.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Right.


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Rhiannoon

And I'm like. all right it just Okay. You said.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


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Rhiannoon

You said it's not real.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


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Rhiannoon

I'm going to keep in mind that it is not real. It's just... I don't know Yeah. And.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, but having it explained to you as opposed to people just assuming you know it or even worse, like. assuming that you're dumb because you don't know it. It's like, no, that's a child.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

They're not dumb for not knowing things, they just don't know all the things yet.


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Rhiannoon

yeah Yeah, they're dumb because you didn't tell them so. i


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep. Well, and that's that whole, like, oh, millennials these days, they can't do this, they can't do that.


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Rhiannoon

Thanks.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Like, yeah, you probably should have taught that to them. You know, it's that like if they bitch about like, oh, everybody gets a participation medal.


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Rhiannoon

Yeah. it's like you don't


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Wednesday Lee Friday

The kids didn't go out and buy participation medals. They were given to them by you guys.


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Rhiannoon

yeah Yeah, exactly. And you know who taught me how to change a tire and my own oil? My fiancé. in my twenties. when we first got together.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice.


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Rhiannoon

but but Yeah. he's the He's a year and a half younger than me.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow, nice. Yeah, H is younger than me, too. He was born in 74. Whereas I was born in 1970.


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Rhiannoon

Nice. Nice.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, I'm very old. Very old.


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Rhiannoon

Oh, no.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

um So did did you watch a lot of horror as a kid?


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Rhiannoon

but actually Here's the thing. It's like I started out with horror and then... My my horror origin is really funny. And then it was... um I ended up uh, seeing part of the OG Amityville Horror.


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Rhiannoon

At my aunt's house... And it's the it was the part where the... The window comes crashing down on the kid's knuckles. And then it just keeps going and you see the blood.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


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Rhiannoon

And, you know, looking back, you know back then... the To quote Tom Savini, there wasn't enough green in the blood. It looked more orange than red. but


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep, yep


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Rhiannoon

Because there wasn't enough green in it. But. um But I don't know that that turned me off of horror movies for a long time because I the idea of Your... fingers being bluntly guillotined off just kind of fucked me up um and then 1996 rolled around. And here's, it turned me off of horror, but not completely because I still watch Goosebumps and Are You Afraid of the Dark religiously. That was my after school programming.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice. Nice.


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Rhiannoon

For a long fucking time. And to this day, um I still... want the complete series of are you afraid of the dark on dvd because that way it'll a be in order Paramount Plus, if you're listening, fix it. um


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Wednesday Lee Friday

They're fast. They're not going to fix anything.


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Rhiannoon

Oh, but fix it, damn it, please. I'm begging, fix it. the The episodes are out of order. And there's entire episodes missing. including the entire last season.


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Rhiannoon

of are you brave or hard?


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh no!


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Rhiannoon

Yeah, there's six seasons of are you there's six seasons of Are You Afraid of the Dark People. Not five, there are six seasons, including a made-for-TV movie called The Tale of the Silver Sight. which was the series finale.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, see...


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Rhiannoon

I'm very. Yeah.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

that I mean, first of all, Paramount is the most fash of all the major networks. I mean, they're all a little bit fash, but I would say in order, like CBS is the most fash, then NBC, then ABC, with Fox not even being in the equation because fuck them.


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Rhiannoon

listen


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Wednesday Lee Friday

um


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Rhiannoon

Yeah. They're just... There.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, I'm old, so there are three networks that I acknowledge, and those are they.


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Rhiannoon

Let me come.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

So...


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Rhiannoon

Fair enough. Fair enough, ah but... asked


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Wednesday Lee Friday

But it it just it just sucks so bad, though, because, like, I have to pay Fash money if I want to watch Dexter.


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Rhiannoon

It's nothing.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Beavis and Butthead. All the Star Trek.


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Rhiannoon

Yep.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Twilight Zone? I mean, that's bullshit. That in and of itself is enough to just be like... I mean, that's that's not right. It's it's not. ethical or moral to give money to the fast to watch Star Trek.


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Rhiannoon

All right. Irony. And Twilight Zone!


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Wednesday Lee Friday

o


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Rhiannoon

We see the irony! with fascist star trek and twilight zone right we all see this


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, right Lucille Ball and Rod Serling would fucking faint if they knew what had happened to like who owned their content.


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Rhiannoon

Okay. know what You need to come back from the grave and just... beat the crud out of people.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


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Rhiannoon

Um. That is how I look at it. Uh.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Absolutely.


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Rhiannoon

But but yeah, no 1996 rolled around and that's when Scream. came out.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Mm hmm.


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Rhiannoon

Okay.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Mm-hmm


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Rhiannoon

Green was what? Got me. completely and utterly back into horror. It was the the meta humor with the.


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Rhiannoon

Slasher. classic flasher aspect it was it was just Fantastic. there's I love slasher flicks and this is. the And as much as I love my horror community, some of us are assholes and everything.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah. yeah


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Rhiannoon

A new movie comes out that people either love it or hate it, and there is no in-between. Okay.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, and even that is fine, but you don't have to hate people. think like the people that love things you hate and vice versa


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Rhiannoon

Yeah, it's


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Wednesday Lee Friday

You know, I didn't like Skinnamarink, but I'm not going to kick someone's ass because they thought it was great. They're allowed to think it's great.


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Rhiannoon

and Oh, God, I love you.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

even though they're wrong. They're allowed to be wrong. um


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Rhiannoon

good love skidamarink i did i sat in my dark ass bedroom my fiance and i had an argument and i went to the back room for a few and i'm like i'm gonna watch this fucking movie Finally.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I get it, man. I mean, I like the remake of psycho. I would stand up and fight for the remake of Psycho. And that is not a common opinion in the horror film loving community.


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Rhiannoon

Great, great, great. my my My thing is is I do not like to acknowledge the fact that a second Descent movie exists.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Really? i did not I did not find the second Descent movie bad.


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Rhiannoon

um


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Wednesday Lee Friday

It's not as good as the first one, but yeah, as a continuation, I was like, okay.


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Rhiannoon

if you don't It's you? Maybe. If you've seen the unrated... version. of the dissent that has The better true horror movie ending, you don't you don't want there to be a second one.


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Rhiannoon

You just don't.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, that no, no, that that makes sense. I understand that, that it it's sort of dependent on which first ending you prefer. And yeah, I agree that the ah you're you're talking about the the birthday cake ending.


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Rhiannoon

No. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah.


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Rhiannoon

the the


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah.


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Rhiannoon

Yep.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't want to, like, blatantly spoil The Descent because it's so good.


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Rhiannoon

i've got Of course.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

And if people hear us talking about it, like, oh, I should watch that. I don't want to, like, spoil the good ending.


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Rhiannoon

i


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Wednesday Lee Friday

But yeah, that that.


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Rhiannoon

I'm surprised that the DVD or the movie poster cover uh, didn't get flack. I'm really surprised- surprised that that didn't get any flack.


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Rhiannoon

For the simple fact of... That. Cover, you know, where it's all the girls in a... And their body positions are in a skull shape.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Mm hmm. Yep.


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Rhiannoon

That's based on a fucking Gacy painting


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah it is.


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Rhiannoon

It'll work! how did People miss that.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't think they missed it I think they were depending on the people who would get it. not minding. but I think that's that's pretty much where they're at with that.


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Rhiannoon

Yeah, all right, fair enough.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

ms


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Rhiannoon

did


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, the descent, I think, likes Grimm.


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Rhiannoon

right


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I think it's not like. better per se, but I think that it is a movie. that is is made. Based on understanding what horror fans are looking for. What makes a good horror movie. Like Scream.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I think. is the first horror movie in a while that didn't... insult its audience and didn't go for gore over substance because i mean it's a very bloody film


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Rhiannoon

And you know why? because Wes Craven listened to his daughter. That is


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I believe that.


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Rhiannoon

That is why Wes Craven's slasher films are... dare i say somewhat superior to other slasher films because he listened to his daughter when his daughter said dad we don't run and trip all the time


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Wednesday Lee Friday

No we really don't.


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Rhiannoon

What was it? I love you. said that's literally all she fucking said and i love it i love it so much and


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Wednesday Lee Friday

With apologies to Judith O'Day, no, some of us fight back. Um.


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Rhiannoon

Yeah. Yeah, those kids. Absolutely. With all the apologies. But... um, It was just the simple fact that he listened to his daughter and...


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Rhiannoon

Again, this is this is where I'm going to say a... semi-controversial statement about the scream? ah the first the screen movies of Scream. From 1996, what- Neve Campbell and all that. um You know, Matthew Willard, etc.


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Rhiannoon

Uh... Dare I say, it is a perfect slasher. It is.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. I wouldn't dispute that.


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Rhiannoon

That was easy. I'm here. vi Slasher.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, I would not dispute that.


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Rhiannoon

It really, it's just. it is it's it's good it breaks some rules while still having the essence there and it's Fucking good. I can't be mad. And then the radio silence.


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Rhiannoon

a Scream. that came out. screen five i think it was you know that that was fantastic and then scream six was great i haven't seen scream seven yet i've heard like it's got a lot of flack to it but whatever i'm still going to watch it because it's the return of matthew lillard and i love him


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh is it?


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Rhiannoon

And.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


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Rhiannoon

Yep.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I mean, NGL, I was ah much less interested once they killed Cottonweary, because...


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Rhiannoon

Yeah.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

you know.


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Rhiannoon

It was weird.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

It's like, oh, really?


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Rhiannoon

yeah


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Wednesday Lee Friday

You're going to kill the hottest guy in the franchise again? you You did that at the end of the first movie, and here you still are killing the hottest guy you have left in the franchise. Never been a fan of Arquette.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Nothing against him, but Come on.


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Rhiannoon

that what did but they also did in the second movie with Jerry O 'Connell.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Come on. Thanks. Oh that's true, yeah. I mean, he's not really my type. He's a little young for me, but but I see the appeal. I see the appeal.


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Rhiannoon

ah Arguably, they killed the hottest chick in the franchise with Rose McGowan in the first one.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

ha


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Rhiannoon

so


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, Rose McGowan is like one of the hottest chicks that ever existed. She is so amazing inside and out, and she has been treated so badly.


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Rhiannoon

Exactly.


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Rhiannoon

I love it. i know and


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Wednesday Lee Friday

For. Bad reasons.


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Rhiannoon

and here's and And here's another controversial statement. I know it's a controversial statement because I've gotten shit for it. At the risk of being canceled already. I stand with Rose McGowan, whether she is.


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Rhiannoon

um speaking out against someone or speaking for them. And I'm just going to leave it at that.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

yeah i mean i i try i i've I hope I've learned my lesson about ah admiring. celebs and famous people i have a real you know i'm i'm audi hd so it turns out that that i have a very good reason for these weird parasocial relationships that I have in in my head canon. um But yeah, she she seems on the level to me. I mean, on on a level of like Aubrey Plaza. like I would defend her, and then if she says something, I'm like, well...


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Unless I have evidence to the contrary, that works for me. Um...


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Rhiannoon

Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

So listen, you are also a collector of horror goods. I know this from the internet.


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Rhiannoon

Yeah.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

So I'm curious to know if you have any especially noteworthy pieces that you would like to tell us about.


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Rhiannoon

Oh my gosh. um i've got it's not technically horror but it's horror adjacent because dark fanity is fantasy is horror adjacent i i finally got my labyrinth door knockers.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh sure.


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Rhiannoon

which makes me happy.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh wow.


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Rhiannoon

um And those are on my gallery wall now. I also have my... Um, Hello here or hell Hello there, hell here neon sign.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh, the Catwoman sign. Nice.


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Rhiannoon

Yes, from Batman Returns, which I've wanted one since I was five, and now I have it.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice. Nice.


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Rhiannoon

Yeah. I um... It's... I've got an Aztec death whistle. um my My kid's boyfriend last year for Christmas got me a Funko Pop of Sam from Trick or Treat with a little Jacqueline.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh, nice. Nice.


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Rhiannoon

and I've got a little tar man figurine. One of my favorite pieces though is this. it was local It was made by a local artist. Her name is Nancy and she's great. And I'm going to, I'll try to get more. information. about her so you can like put it in show notes or whatever uh But she made...


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Rhiannoon

this It's a lawn gnome, but she painted it to look like Captain Spalding from House of a Thousand Corpses.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh wow.


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Rhiannoon

I love him so much. He is he is my house... i have i have dedicated him as my the protector of my apartment of my of my home. I have named him Sid. After the actor said, hey.


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Rhiannoon

ah May his memory be a blessing. He was badass. I loved Sid Haig. I also learned that Sid Haig, when I was... in 2005 there was a movie filmed in peru indiana called little big top ah from a local...


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Rhiannoon

movie writer, director. straight out of Peru. And... he was He was there for a few months. in 2005 when i was freshly 18.


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Rhiannoon

And I was like. so you're telling me when i was 18 years old i could have driven 45 minutes north and met fucking Sid Haig. And no one told me.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Right.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yikes. Yeah, i've I have not met Sid either. I have his autograph that's like signed to me personally because a friend got it for me at a con, but I have not met him.


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Rhiannoon

It's like I've... It's like I've got my, like my fiance for. Christmas a couple years I got him Saint Nick. ah by Mick Foley. Saint Mick. the book st mick


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah.


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Rhiannoon

and He actually came to our Books A Million and I got it signed for him. Uh...


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Wednesday Lee Friday

He's great, right? Everybody says he's great.


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Rhiannoon

Holy.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Actually, you know what? If he's not great, don't tell me. I don't want to know.


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Rhiannoon

Oh, no, he's amazing. um i But I wasn't the one that got it signed. I had my friend go and get it signed because I had to work. But she said he was a real sweet dude. um


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I bet so. You know, one of the worst things about like all this MAGA everything. is finding out how many people... whose work I really enjoy are absolute shitbags in real life.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

I mean, we were just saying, Vince Vaughn from, you know, the remake of Psycho, he went to Mar-a-Lago, like after the Epstein files, after it was undeniable.


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Rhiannoon

yeah


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Rhiannoon

no i know


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Wednesday Lee Friday

what kind of man Trump was, he went to Mar-a-Lago socially.


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Rhiannoon

I know.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

so


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Rhiannoon

And and then... There's... I'm really upset with the Osbournes that since Ozzy passed away, they're becoming the Kardashians.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh my god, that shit is insane.


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Rhiannoon

I. Oh, I'm so upset with fucking Jack and Kelly for going to the goddamn MMA thing at the fucking White House wall. And I'm so mad about that. Like, I'm never not.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, and you knew it was coming when Jack started talking about how he doesn't discuss politics publicly. I'm like, oh, down with the rapist, Aria.


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Rhiannoon

I know. I know.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

What?


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Rhiannoon

And then there's the whole Ed Sheeran thing going on right now. And I'm like, damn it, but I liked Ed Sheeran.


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Wednesday Lee Friday

well right and i mean the thing is everything i have learned about macklemore has been involuntarily i could give two fucks about macklemore but now i'm like now i gotta have an opinion on this okay well it's good he's speaking out against violence against civilians that's good and then somebody's like did you know about this and they sent me a picture of macklemore on stage


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Rhiannoon

oh one more


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Wednesday Lee Friday

in the most offensive Jewish caricature. costume you know like Hasidic! but with a ah giant nose, just like...


00:19:39.78

Wednesday Lee Friday

my god that's offensive like like blackface level offensive


00:19:41.33

Rhiannoon

I think. i seen like i think i've that And I think it was, um God, that was.


00:19:44.37

Wednesday Lee Friday

and


00:19:47.22

Rhiannoon

so fucking long ago when something like that was actually not considered that offensive and it was i know he came out in front of it and said


00:19:54.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

I would think that 100 years ago, that would still be considered offensive.


00:19:55.31

Rhiannoon

okay


00:19:59.14

Wednesday Lee Friday

I mean, it was 2014.


00:19:59.06

Rhiannoon

I don't. know


00:20:01.58

Wednesday Lee Friday

So, and I mean, I guess he apologized for it, but the apology was so, like, I had no idea people would find it offensive.


00:20:01.64

Rhiannoon

twenty


00:20:04.51

Rhiannoon

but


00:20:09.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

Like, you you did? Like, have you ever met? a person because not even a jewish person but anyone should be able to tell you that that is offensive You know?


00:20:19.76

Rhiannoon

well i But then you have Billy Crystal in The Princess Bride. I mean, look at him in that.


00:20:27.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well... Billy Crystal is a Jewish man being directed, I believe, by another Jewish man. So...


00:20:33.11

Rhiannoon

Exactly. Exactly. that's ah That's another thing. It's like, exactly.


00:20:37.58

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, but


00:20:37.36

Rhiannoon

it's like You don't know.


00:20:38.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

we we don't want to get all like white people with the n-word like just because we hear some people do it that doesn't make it okay you know


00:20:42.00

Rhiannoon

yeah like Yeah, I know. a what do it now.


00:20:46.72

Rhiannoon

You ever had a...


00:20:46.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

Because, yes, I mean, there is there is like intent to consider there. But I have a hard time when I look at that outfit.


00:20:50.92

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


00:20:54.43

Wednesday Lee Friday

imagining under any um but like what what was your intent if it was not offensive what else what other reason is there to do that


00:21:02.32

Rhiannoon

I really don't think he picked it out. I think someone picked it out for him and he didn't realize it until it was too late.


00:21:11.16

Wednesday Lee Friday

If someone tried to put me in blackface... I would not. permit that to like i don't I can't.


00:21:18.14

Rhiannoon

There's...


00:21:18.49

Wednesday Lee Friday

I just.


00:21:19.06

Rhiannoon

Black days and then there's...


00:21:19.73

Wednesday Lee Friday

I can't excuse it.


00:21:20.75

Rhiannoon

contrastthetics And it's.


00:21:20.99

Wednesday Lee Friday

I can't


00:21:22.00

Rhiannoon

I get where you're coming from. I get where you're coming from. But, you know, if someone put me in a fucking wi Wicked Witch of the West costume with the nose and everything, I'm not going to stop them. but we all


00:21:32.65

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, but that's the Wicked Witch of the West, though. That's a character.


00:21:36.14

Rhiannoon

Right, but let's also be honest. That whole crooked nose. it's it is offensive it it does come from the jewish side of things and I've done a lot i've done Whoop!


00:21:47.36

Wednesday Lee Friday

Does it? Like, that that's honestly news to me that witches having crooked nose is anti-Semitic.


00:21:52.12

Rhiannoon

Yeah! yeah


00:21:54.54

Wednesday Lee Friday

um now Now I got to do a deep dive.


00:21:57.37

Rhiannoon

Oh, I did.


00:22:00.27

Wednesday Lee Friday

Now I got a deep dive it well, I mean i've I've been a witch for many a Halloween and I've never actually done the nose but


00:22:00.31

Rhiannoon

the ah


00:22:04.67

Rhiannoon

Same.


00:22:07.26

Rhiannoon

Me either.


00:22:07.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

That's because I was too cheap to go buy a nose. I mean, I have a theatrical makeup kit that was just never.


00:22:11.42

Rhiannoon

and No, I scratch it. Too often. And that's why I just haven't done it. But I did. One year dressed as Elphaba from Wicked before the movies ever came out. ah but when i was i had just I had seen the musical.


00:22:25.08

Rhiannoon

um at the Murrah Theater in Indianapolis. which was fantastic. with my mom. And ah we we went down there. We saw we watched we saw the... stage performance of Wicked And that year for Halloween, I decided to be Elphaba. And we went to a church trunk or treat on Halloween. And I actually dressed as the Wicked Witch of the fucking West.


00:22:49.37

Wednesday Lee Friday

Night.


00:22:49.42

Rhiannoon

I


00:22:49.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice. nice


00:22:50.13

Rhiannoon

I... like I beat the pastor's kid at Bible trivia.


00:22:55.07

Wednesday Lee Friday

but well You know... I find in my travels through this this life that...


00:23:05.48

Wednesday Lee Friday

People who are not devout Christians often know the Bible like more of it and better and understand it. more than than Christians.


00:23:15.53

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, not not all Christians.


00:23:15.49

Rhiannoon

Oh, yeah. my


00:23:17.41

Wednesday Lee Friday

and I want to make it really clear that if it sounds like I'm defaming Christianity, I'm talking about the bad ones.


00:23:19.28

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


00:23:22.43

Rhiannoon

Absolutely.


00:23:23.74

Wednesday Lee Friday

I think recently the internet has decided that there are Dolly Christians and there are Donald Christians. and


00:23:29.65

Rhiannoon

Yeah. i have ah


00:23:30.81

Wednesday Lee Friday

i you know


00:23:32.11

Rhiannoon

I keep saying.


00:23:32.63

Wednesday Lee Friday

I'm not going to equate myself to Dolly, but if I could afford to give every kid in America a book every month, I absolutely would.


00:23:32.77

Rhiannoon

i don't need


00:23:39.70

Wednesday Lee Friday

so


00:23:39.59

Rhiannoon

Oh fuck yeah. Like. i'm I... I've come... I say... when whenever I say the phrase, you're one of the good ones, I'm only ever talking about Christians or men.


00:23:51.49

Wednesday Lee Friday

a Yeah, that's one of those sayings that, like... is so big it coded that I try not to use it. But. Then I end up using it ironically and not deciding whether or not I'm actually being ironic.


00:24:04.95

Rhiannoon

They're wrong. is like...


00:24:06.00

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right.


00:24:06.43

Rhiannoon

it back. I'm just like taking... It's like it's like that scene in Clerks 2, if you know, you know. um but I'm just taking back that phrase. It's like, but I only ever use it when I'm talking about Christians for men and nothing else.


00:24:23.27

Wednesday Lee Friday

No, I get it. I get it. So like moving on. i You might hate... this question as much as i do but i'm gonna get i'm gonna ask anyway were you named after the song


00:24:33.65

Rhiannoon

Abso-fucking-lutely. and and i don't hate I don't hate that question because no one ever asks me.


00:24:35.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


00:24:39.55

Rhiannoon

I say, hi, my name is Rhiannon.


00:24:40.75

Wednesday Lee Friday

Really?


00:24:41.92

Rhiannoon

And then they say, oh, Rhiannon? I'm like, close enough. Or my favorite.


00:24:45.54

Wednesday Lee Friday

the


00:24:45.24

Rhiannoon

is My favorite is Brianna. I'm like... No, there's no B. Put it back. I don't know where you got it from, but put it.


00:24:52.17

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow. That must be because you're young, because that is the first thing that I think of whenever I encounter someone named Rhiannon, which, you know, I do occasionally.


00:25:01.93

Rhiannoon

Unfortunately. Unfortunately, everyone that thats that fucks it up grew up around the era where that was on the top 10 charts, so.


00:25:10.40

Wednesday Lee Friday

ha


00:25:10.99

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


00:25:12.10

Wednesday Lee Friday

Isn't that interesting? So do you find it a pain in the ass to have a referential name then? It sounds like you don't.


00:25:17.99

Rhiannoon

no I love my name especially because when I was 12 I got in I I'm like this name has to mean something like I did not I'm going to be perfectly honest I didn't like my name For the longest time. Because it was weird. People. It was hard for people to say. People couldn't fucking remember it. And it got frustrating for me. So I'm just like.


00:25:37.05

Rhiannoon

So when I was 12 years old, I'm like, this name has to mean something. And so I started going doing a deep dive on the etymology of my name. And then I learn that my name is. that of an ancient Celtic Welsh. horse goddess.


00:25:52.17

Rhiannoon

a Rhiannon, the goddess of magic and horses and agriculture, birds, it's a- fascinating Fascinating story. and And she was also falsely accused of... um ah Infanticide?


00:26:10.55

Rhiannoon

but but


00:26:11.27

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


00:26:12.07

Rhiannoon

Yeah, falsely accused of infanticide. Her child was... stolen in the night and her handmaids didn't want to get in trouble. because They were supposed to be the ones watching the baby and they fell asleep. So they smeared like dog blood and bones around her while she slept.


00:26:29.97

Rhiannoon

Bitch had to have been a very fucking sound sleeper. That's all I'm saying.


00:26:34.02

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow. Yeah.


00:26:35.75

Rhiannoon

And so. You know, this is an ancient Celtic... Mythos. myths mythical story so you know dna testing didn't exist then So the...


00:26:47.68

Rhiannoon

So she was falsely accused of... Eating her child? And... And she was, set her sentence was she had to.


00:26:59.18

Rhiannoon

um ferry people on her Horse. to the underworld.


00:27:07.58

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


00:27:08.18

Rhiannoon

While telling them. Her story. Anyone or not just that, but anyone who asked for a ride.


00:27:16.52

Wednesday Lee Friday

hu


00:27:17.16

Rhiannoon

had to let She had to give them a ride. She was a free taxi service, basically. for anyone lost in the woods or um going yeah you know, passing on.


00:27:29.47

Wednesday Lee Friday

That is fascinating. And I had no idea. I also actually what I'm thinking is like, wow, I can see why Stevie Nicks was so into that. Because that's amazing.


00:27:38.97

Rhiannoon

she didn't even know about the myth She read it in a book. about a book about witches and the character there's a character named Rhiannon and it is a welsh witch And...


00:27:52.56

Rhiannoon

The book I believe is called Triad. And I don't remember the the author's name, but I believe the book is called Triad.


00:28:00.25

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


00:28:00.93

Rhiannoon

So yeah, she didn't even get the name from the myth.


00:28:04.11

Wednesday Lee Friday

How interesting.


00:28:04.05

Rhiannoon

She's learning about the myth later.


00:28:06.64

Wednesday Lee Friday

Heh heh heh heh heh.


00:28:06.54

Rhiannoon

but but


00:28:09.06

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow. Yeah, you know, it's interesting because I don't want to like praise the turf or anything, but. Harry Potter is one of those things where if you study which things, you know how much of that is stolen.


00:28:20.28

Rhiannoon

mm-hmm Harry Potter.


00:28:22.93

Wednesday Lee Friday

Like there's a book. from 1960 called the dark arts and uh if you like a friend of mine got me well and and


00:28:30.36

Rhiannoon

No.


00:28:30.92

Wednesday Lee Friday

person I used to be friends with got me a copy it's crazy well but like the whole Harry James Potter is like so close to James Henry Trotter that it Pisses me off.


00:28:31.02

Rhiannoon

Thank you for watching this video.


00:28:35.72

Rhiannoon

but


00:28:41.19

Rhiannoon

ah oh Sorry.


00:28:45.54

Wednesday Lee Friday

it It just...


00:28:45.72

Rhiannoon

Sorry.


00:28:46.12

Wednesday Lee Friday

Bit. It just pisses me off that because I loved ah I mean, Roald Dahl, not a good man, but.


00:28:51.72

Rhiannoon

Thank you.


00:28:51.66

Wednesday Lee Friday

Great content. wonderful stories that you know


00:28:53.98

Rhiannoon

I love that his last words were, how fuck.


00:28:57.06

Wednesday Lee Friday

Hmm. Um.


00:28:58.99

Rhiannoon

He... This beautiful speech to his family, and then the- Nurse stuck him with a needle and he said, oh, fuck.


00:29:05.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

ah Yeah, matt that sounds right. so I am aware that you live with ADHD and you were also saying that you have a...


00:29:17.65

Wednesday Lee Friday

ah Well, you said BPD. Was that bipolar or borderline?


00:29:21.37

Rhiannoon

borderline woot


00:29:22.84

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


00:29:24.01

Rhiannoon

Whenever I


00:29:23.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

So. What I want you to do is walk us through how you came to seek and get a diagnosis. Like, why did you get a diagnosis in the first place?


00:29:34.57

Rhiannoon

Well, I would. Originally, I was diagnosed with ADHD in third grade. Which brings me to the fact that I have not been retested yet, but my retest for ADHD is coming up August 1st, or August, fuck, October.


00:29:46.56

Rhiannoon

I'm okay. I know what day it is.


00:29:48.03

Wednesday Lee Friday

Hmm.


00:29:49.04

Rhiannoon

Where? Fuck. Uh... but yeah october 1st i'm getting retested for adhd because you know what the the testing for for ADHD has changed a lot for women. since the 1990s.


00:30:03.31

Rhiannoon

so Yeah.


00:30:05.34

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh, I'm sure.


00:30:05.27

Rhiannoon

But.


00:30:05.63

Wednesday Lee Friday

When I was a kid, they couldn't diagnose it in girls. They hadn't they didn't know how.


00:30:09.81

Rhiannoon

Yeah, they they just said, this is a boy problem. Alright.


00:30:13.69

Wednesday Lee Friday

Pretty much.


00:30:14.42

Rhiannoon

You know, you're you're... You're just like that, sweetie, because you're a girl. okay am i quiet because I'm a girl or am I? fucking annoyed because I'm a girl.


00:30:25.12

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right.


00:30:27.19

Rhiannoon

Just fucking annoyed. And mostly because yeah, I'm a girl. the anyway love But yeah, no, I got diagnosed with a BPD. like two-ish weeks ago and


00:30:40.14

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


00:30:40.05

Rhiannoon

They. Yeah, they put me on a mood stabilizer. So that's.


00:30:44.45

Wednesday Lee Friday

And how's that going?


00:30:44.47

Rhiannoon

what


00:30:45.47

Wednesday Lee Friday

If it's two weeks ago it probably isn't even taking effect yet, right?


00:30:46.13

Rhiannoon

Um.


00:30:49.04

Rhiannoon

and Not entirely, but I have noticed like some subtle differences like I'm a little bit less impulsive like not terribly less impulsive like my fiance and i got into it kind of last weekend and um what made this kind of funny was the fact that i uh I...


00:31:08.64

Rhiannoon

Where I notice I'm like, oh, hey, I didn't give in to that impulse. is i I didn't say the mean thing that I was.


00:31:15.54

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


00:31:15.61

Rhiannoon

I...


00:31:15.72

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


00:31:16.06

Rhiannoon

about


00:31:16.07

Wednesday Lee Friday

yep


00:31:17.61

Rhiannoon

before just leaving the apartment for a few hours.


00:31:21.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

Hmm? Yeah, that's relatable.


00:31:25.38

Rhiannoon

no


00:31:25.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

um so So what led to you getting the more recent diagnosis?


00:31:31.61

Rhiannoon

So my my mother had a brain bleed? Okay.


00:31:34.70

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh.


00:31:34.80

Rhiannoon

back in June. she was in the hospital and my little brother who's 23 was staying with us for that period of time because he still lives with her. And... um But. um Once it was a very stressful period and I had just taken my little brother to work There were dishes in the sink I had kind of made a mess making breakfast and I put everything in the sink and didn't take care of it And my fiance was mad about it and he uh,


00:32:00.08

Rhiannoon

Kind of grabbed me by the arm and drug me over to the kitchen and told me to deal with it And then I grabbed a knife out of the fucking knife lock and it slipped out of my hand which I am pretty sure was some spirit or ghost slapping it out of my hand going.


00:32:14.67

Rhiannoon

Bitch, no. um The fuck you thinking? And it fell into the sink. And I'm like, you know. I need to get looked at.


00:32:24.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, hang on. um let Let's back up a little bit. Your fiancé... drug you by the arm into the kitchen because he was upset that there was a mess.


00:32:33.06

Rhiannoon

He it wasn't. He led me by the arm because he was upset because I had made a mess. Which, okay, i get it's been a stressful week. We're both on edge. again it wasn't that bad it's not like i bruised or anything i do bruise somewhat easily but he actually did not grab me hard enough to bruise me he just grabbed me hard enough to piss me off um


00:32:55.43

Rhiannoon

And it it was not an abusive situation. It was like, hey, babe, look at this. And I was just really on edge that whole fucking day. that whole fucking week and i grabbed a knife and i almost embedded it in his shoulder But I didn't. because it slipped out of my hand and into the sink.


00:33:10.90

Rhiannoon

Mm-hmm


00:33:13.38

Rhiannoon

And.


00:33:13.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow


00:33:14.85

Rhiannoon

Yeah! And I went... I need to calm the fuck down. I i need to get looked at. Yep.


00:33:22.95

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. Well, yeah, that that seems like a... an appropriate next step.


00:33:29.49

Rhiannoon

Yep, that was my... um That was my oh fuck moment. right there i was like um Mm. Yeah, I should not. have done that.


00:33:41.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

No, no, it sounds like there were several things in in rapid succession that probably shouldn't have happened on multiple people's. that I'm sorry, man. I really don't like that. that that you were manhandled.


00:33:53.33

Wednesday Lee Friday

um That's obviously it is not my. responsibility to pass judgment about your relationships but Man I don't like that.


00:33:59.88

Rhiannoon

Look. i' look I've been this with this man for 14 years. um We have had... We have had our ups. We have had our downs. I won.


00:34:10.79

Rhiannoon

I won an argument two years ago. By quoting out the outsider by a perfect circle


00:34:23.15

Wednesday Lee Friday

so when ah So when you were going through this, maybe this ties in, what kind of a support system do you have in terms of your mental health?


00:34:23.40

Rhiannoon

So.


00:34:31.35

Rhiannoon

i've got a pretty good one like my fiance he's genuinely after that incident that i mentioned uh he's very much been coming around to Um,


00:34:42.73

Rhiannoon

yeah Because even though he's a year and a half younger than me, there's a lot of there's a good part of him that has this fucking weird 1974 mentality of all you need is discipline, walk it off, and rub some dirt on it bullshit.


00:34:53.94

Rhiannoon

ah But he's finally, all after after that whole incident, he's like, yeah, you know, maybe you do need a mood stabilizer. You think? How macabre.


00:35:03.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


00:35:04.57

Rhiannoon

Hey, this. Like.


00:35:06.00

Wednesday Lee Friday

and and And who else, though? I mean, obviously, it's it's essential that the person that you you live with and are building a life with is supportive.


00:35:09.26

Rhiannoon

with


00:35:13.97

Wednesday Lee Friday

um


00:35:14.61

Rhiannoon

Yes.


00:35:14.77

Wednesday Lee Friday

Beyond that.


00:35:15.85

Rhiannoon

beyond Beyond that, i have um I have my friend Julie.


00:35:16.03

Wednesday Lee Friday

what What kind of support is there?


00:35:18.96

Rhiannoon

I've known her since. We were in fifth and sixth grade. I love her very, very much. She is a good friend of mine. She has beaten cancer twice, thyroid cancer.


00:35:28.32

Wednesday Lee Friday

ah Wow.


00:35:30.31

Rhiannoon

Yeah. She's beaten thyroid cancer twice. ah She's part of my boo basket crew this year. I'm making five different boo baskets and probably over.


00:35:38.87

Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice.


00:35:39.44

Rhiannoon

on a little bit of them but she's getting a final world theme basket


00:35:43.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh wow.


00:35:44.45

Rhiannoon

So, because... yeah when you beat cancer that's kind of you know a final girl moment um So. not Not to mention fucking twice. She she lived through the sequel.


00:35:54.18

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right?


00:35:54.76

Rhiannoon

Bye. He lived through the fucking sequel. ah So yeah, it's it's kind of like scream ghost face. because you know sydney


00:36:02.18

Wednesday Lee Friday

I was going to say that's a Neve Campbell move right there.


00:36:05.57

Rhiannoon

Bucket A. Better.


00:36:08.45

Wednesday Lee Friday

So let me ask you this. So you were diagnosed in in third grade, you said?


00:36:13.24

Rhiannoon

it With ADHD, yes.


00:36:15.28

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay, so... And were people giving accommodations at that point at school? Did you have an IEP?


00:36:22.50

Rhiannoon

I ended up getting an IEP in sixth grade. So three years later, I ended up getting an IEP. Now, here's the thing.


00:36:29.08

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


00:36:29.10

Rhiannoon

My mother refused. my mother refused to actually acknowledge the ADHD. She.


00:36:35.81

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, you know... there's ah the The main debate about that seems to be... that if you label someone that there's a stigma attached. but on the other side of that if you don't


00:36:45.75

Rhiannoon

i


00:36:48.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

State. the issue if you don't call it what it is then you don't know how to Deal with it.


00:36:55.70

Rhiannoon

Oh, yeah. i I literally... um I was talking about my BPD diagnosis at work, and one of the older guys was like, you're just gonna... Talk about it like that? He's like, is it?


00:37:06.58

Rhiannoon

Everybody's business? I'm like... Oh, if I don't... I'm like, well, what's going to happen if i don't if I talk about it? It might you know remove the stigma and we could actually move forward.


00:37:17.34

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


00:37:18.10

Rhiannoon

I'm like. No, yeah, I'm not ashamed of having this. like i I've known... There's something wrong with me like Like, and... Jeez, my family.


00:37:30.23

Rhiannoon

A few years back. basically gaslit me into letting my kid's dad back in her fucking life. He's dead now that's not he got hit by a car and died a few years in 2021 so it's a non-issue now but They gaslit me into letting... Back in a little...


00:37:45.51

Rhiannoon

live And when I went over to my. grandparents My cousin, my aunt and my grandparents were there. And I'm just like. I'm not on drugs guys, I'm just like this. Yeah.


00:37:57.77

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. Heh heh. Yeah.


00:38:00.05

Rhiannoon

Good.


00:38:00.53

Wednesday Lee Friday

It can be two things.


00:38:01.70

Rhiannoon

and


00:38:02.63

Wednesday Lee Friday

um


00:38:02.48

Rhiannoon

sitting there everybody is there you i'm like why are we here what's going on I'm like guys I'm not on drugs. I'm just like this. I promise.


00:38:13.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

So was there any aspect of support that you wish that you had that you did not have?


00:38:14.11

Rhiannoon

and like drugs


00:38:19.37

Rhiannoon

I wish my mom would have actually fucking done something. I wish my mom wouldn't have been in denial so hard because once I got into sixth grade at a Northwestern School Corporation, now they're a lot better.


00:38:29.50

Rhiannoon

Now. uh, here in Howard County, Indiana. the the this school corporation backed in the 90s um It was a bunch of doctor, lawyer, farmer brats, and they just really ostracized.


00:38:44.69

Rhiannoon

It made anyone who didn't fit their little cookie cutter, preppy, ideal. They made them a pariah. And I was one of those people. because that was when i ended up getting an iep that's when i got put into the um uh the special ed classes because they didn't fucking separate.


00:39:04.58

Rhiannoon

Anybody. there it's like you're you're in there with all the fucking troubled kids The end. like Okay.


00:39:11.88

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


00:39:13.07

Rhiannoon

Yeah, okay. That's fucking awesome. And this was during the period this was during the period where my BPD was forming. I can tell you that right now. ah my The guy who my mother would later... Mary.


00:39:26.06

Rhiannoon

and be the father of my little brother. um was A fucking creep. In the worst ways possible. um Could have probably been a little worse, but it wasn't great.


00:39:39.57

Rhiannoon

But my... my My real dad at the time was dying of cancer. He ended up passing away in 2001. Uh...


00:39:47.16

Wednesday Lee Friday

oh I'm sorry.


00:39:48.10

Rhiannoon

colon cancer. Yeah, yeah, yesterday I had... two people randomly online make your dad jokes and i was just like my dad died in 2001 from complications with colon cancer so just Do me a favor and make sure you're eating enough fiber, okay?


00:40:04.05

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right?


00:40:05.35

Rhiannoon

Yeah. It's... I'm just, to both to both of them. And I was just like. It's not really a touchy subject because I've definitely had time to adjust, but it's just weird that it happened twice in one day.


00:40:15.48

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah it is.


00:40:15.52

Rhiannoon

Um. And then I made it your mob joke and people fucking went. off and i was like Jeez, I thought I was the fucking snowflake that couldn't take a joke.


00:40:25.77

Rhiannoon

It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard. I thought comedy was legal again.


00:40:28.67

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah.


00:40:30.01

Rhiannoon

Fuck. Calm down.


00:40:31.52

Wednesday Lee Friday

Ha. Yes, well, few things are more contentious than comedy on the internet.


00:40:34.20

Rhiannoon

Woo! whoa


00:40:36.84

Wednesday Lee Friday

Like, what's funny and what's not.


00:40:37.04

Rhiannoon

Don't shoot.


00:40:38.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

Especially, because, I mean, there's a whole... side of the political spectrum that thinks every joke like every punchline has to have a victim or it's not funny


00:40:47.80

Rhiannoon

Yeah, which that's that's not...


00:40:48.03

Wednesday Lee Friday

Like, no.


00:40:50.04

Rhiannoon

That's not comedy, that's Cruelty, you fucknugget.


00:40:53.18

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


00:40:53.98

Rhiannoon

Anyway. Um... but you Yeah.


00:40:56.13

Wednesday Lee Friday

Welp.


00:40:56.68

Rhiannoon

know


00:40:56.58

Wednesday Lee Friday

Punch up, not down.


00:40:57.03

Rhiannoon

Okay.


00:40:58.10

Wednesday Lee Friday

That's that's pretty straightforward.


00:41:00.59

Rhiannoon

Yeah, but yeah, Northwestern, Northwestern. And here's the worst part about Northwestern. el in Sixth grade there was cons... I think it might still be, but it was considered elementary school. so I went from being in junior high sixth grade back to elementary in sixth grade, and then I got recess again, so that was cool.


00:41:18.10

Rhiannoon

Um.


00:41:18.42

Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice.


00:41:19.20

Rhiannoon

it It wasn't all bad. But... But, um... No, uh... When I got put into these special education classes for...


00:41:31.82

Rhiannoon

ah My. for being ADHD.


00:41:37.38

Rhiannoon

Fucking. the We had a different lunch time than everybody else, so... are We would go get our food. before everyone else did. And...


00:41:47.91

Rhiannoon

therefore when we were done with our lunch everyone was already in the lunch room so we would We would. Get our lunches from the lunchroom. We didn't sit in the cafeteria. We took our lunches back to the classroom, ate our lunches in the classroom, and then got paraded. through everybody sitting there eating lunch to take our trays back.


00:42:09.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yikes.


00:42:10.69

Rhiannoon

Yeah! What the fuck, Northwestern?


00:42:14.41

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, that's that's wild. Don't like that. Um. Yikes.


00:42:19.60

Rhiannoon

It's like... public embarrassment You know, you're not already embarrassed enough by being pulled the fuck out of class mid-year.


00:42:28.17

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right? Well, and that's that whole thing with the separate buses. Like, you have to exclude certain kids and put them on a- And you know what the reason for that is?


00:42:37.09

Rhiannoon

that


00:42:37.08

Wednesday Lee Friday

Seatbelts. Because some kids need to have seatbelts and the rest of the kids could just die if the bus flipped over, which is kind of a weird reversal of of how such things usually work.


00:42:48.99

Rhiannoon

Yeah, I'm like...


00:42:49.37

Wednesday Lee Friday

Where the, um...


00:42:49.98

Rhiannoon

right Yeah.


00:42:50.41

Wednesday Lee Friday

Special need kids are getting a little extra safety.


00:42:50.83

Rhiannoon

go Yeah.


00:42:53.34

Wednesday Lee Friday

But they're being absolutely ostracized in order to to do it. So, you know.


00:42:57.17

Rhiannoon

Yay. it's it's it's fucking ridiculous and that was where I drew the line I'm like I'm not getting on that fucking bus And Northwestern's bus was fucking purple and we called it the Barney bus.


00:43:07.11

Wednesday Lee Friday

Aww.


00:43:08.29

Rhiannoon

I know.


00:43:08.45

Wednesday Lee Friday

See, that should be a neat thing. That should be something to be enjoyed.


00:43:11.05

Rhiannoon

Yay!


00:43:12.26

Wednesday Lee Friday

Alas.


00:43:12.36

Rhiannoon

it It should be, but... Here we are in America in the 1990s. With Don't Ask, Don't Tell and Columbine and everything else.


00:43:23.05

Rhiannoon

Like. Fuck, dude. Yeah.


00:43:27.00

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah.


00:43:26.83

Rhiannoon

ay


00:43:29.05

Wednesday Lee Friday

All right, so What I'm wondering, though. is that... currently, like, would you say that ADHD is impacting your creative output?


00:43:39.72

Rhiannoon

um Yes and no. it If it impacts it, it's actually a positive impact because then I can i can sit and write for fucking hours.


00:43:45.78

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


00:43:48.86

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yes, I've heard this before. This has not been my experience, but several guests have told me that, that it's it's helpful.


00:43:54.92

Rhiannoon

Yeah, the hyper focus is fantastic.


00:43:59.01

Rhiannoon

hyper focusing


00:43:59.32

Wednesday Lee Friday

And are you, is that is that from the medication?


00:44:02.16

Rhiannoon

Nope, I don't have ADHD meds yet. I'm just on a mood stabilizer.


00:44:06.62

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow


00:44:06.72

Rhiannoon

hello Blood pressure pill.


00:44:08.05

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, see, that's bullshit because I'm on a mood stabilizer and it's not working for me. So I need to put on my Karen wig and speak to a friggin manager about that.


00:44:16.29

Rhiannoon

Please do. Please do. Don't be. oh be afraid to fucking stand up for yourself. That is something I had to learn. That is something I definitely had to learn over the years because, again, i i have family who I have some family who are assholes and some family who are very supportive. And my mom was actually supportive up until.


00:44:35.14

Rhiannoon

about a week after she got out of the hospital and then um She has- kind of... like It's becoming a slightly more and more complicated Chris Benoit situation. I keep going back to wrestling and I don't know why.


00:44:49.34

Rhiannoon

Um.


00:44:49.38

Wednesday Lee Friday

Because it's awesome?


00:44:51.56

Rhiannoon

Fair enough. But it this is not awesome. The Chris Benoit situation is not awesome.


00:44:57.10

Wednesday Lee Friday

No, no, that part is not awesome. but but


00:44:59.14

Rhiannoon

No, I mean, and let's be honest, there was some religious psychosis.


00:44:59.88

Wednesday Lee Friday

Typically.


00:45:03.11

Rhiannoon

right there in there because he left bible verses next to his victims open bibles with specific turn to specific pages next to his victims that was really weird but um Anyway, ah but yeah, no, my my mother has.


00:45:16.12

Rhiannoon

has brain damage now because you know it was a brain bleed she had to have brain surgery there's scar tissue there now and she has become uh more and more violent. um and my like i i posted screenshots you i think you've seen some of them um


00:45:32.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

Mm hmm.


00:45:34.00

Rhiannoon

about you know she's just you know, The way she's my little brother doesn't have anywhere else to go. And I would put him up here, but I just I can't afford it at the moment. But. Ugh. God.


00:45:45.48

Rhiannoon

It is absolutely wild. And, you know. It's like, you just lack motivation. and intelligence. And I'm just like,


00:45:54.28

Rhiannoon

I have been no content.


00:45:54.87

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


00:45:56.02

Rhiannoon

I have been no contact with my mother since she gave my little brother a fucking concussion. I keep in contact with my little brother. His neighbor, his buddy Dan, has been going over there. daily.


00:46:06.15

Rhiannoon

since then. So this has been since like the first week of July. Dan has been... uh his neighbor dan has been over there every fucking day since


00:46:18.33

Wednesday Lee Friday

Huh.


00:46:19.14

Rhiannoon

Yeah. Yeah, his brother. Yeah, so to to keep an eye on things. And to make sure my mom isn't.


00:46:29.24

Rhiannoon

being Terrible. and for some reason my laptop is uh not charging? What's going on? Sorry. There's the ADHD. Ugh.


00:46:41.40

Wednesday Lee Friday

okay


00:46:42.87

Rhiannoon

Okay, why is my laptop not charging? You're plugged in. What the problem is? Huh?


00:46:51.74

Rhiannoon

Be- Because it's not plugged into the wall. There it is. That was my phone. Okay. we're We're fine now. It's okay. I figured it out.


00:47:01.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

Alright. All right.


00:47:02.60

Rhiannoon

I'm good. And.


00:47:03.96

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. Cool.


00:47:05.30

Rhiannoon

i'm not


00:47:05.81

Wednesday Lee Friday

So... Yeah.


00:47:07.56

Rhiannoon

da


00:47:07.77

Wednesday Lee Friday

Now I am aware. that that you live with the impact of trauma. Um... And so, well, um we don't have to talk specifically about the trauma, but I would like to talk about the coping tools.


00:47:22.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

So what is helpful?


00:47:22.64

Rhiannoon

um


00:47:23.90

Wednesday Lee Friday

when you're feeling the impact.


00:47:25.84

Rhiannoon

ah And this again. at the risk of being canceled. um


00:47:33.03

Rhiannoon

I... I'm one of those weirdos. I love revenge movies. ah Because yes, I am a survivor of sexual assault. I am a survivor of sexual assault. What makes me feel better? is um the revenge... Lots of things like.


00:47:47.92

Rhiannoon

I spit on your grave and last house on the left. I will watch those movies and not be, and. and And I will watch the ugly parts of those movies, the the parts that make people squirm, the parts that a lot of people, and I don't look down on those people, and I understand why they have this. It's exposure therapy for me, but I understand where they're coming from, where they say they don't need those scenes in movies.


00:48:10.71

Rhiannoon

period. They should not have them at all. I understand where you are coming from. I don't blame you. for the way you feel. It's fine. I get it I am.


00:48:22.78

Wednesday Lee Friday

But see, that's the thing that that's. There are compelling arguments on both sides of that because you're right. It's absolutely reasonable to say, I don't want to see this content and no one should have to tell you that you should see that content. If you want the content, if it's helpful to you, it is imperative that it be there and that it be available to the people who need it and who find it helpful.


00:48:46.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

So i'm I'm with you.


00:48:46.74

Rhiannoon

Exactly.


00:48:47.70

Wednesday Lee Friday

I'm with you on that.


00:48:49.00

Rhiannoon

It's like, i I, you know, it's like, I've lived through things like that. I have lived through things like that. I can handle watching it for 10 minutes because lord knows, lords and ladies know, it was not a 10 minute ordeal for me.


00:49:06.53

Rhiannoon

I get it


00:49:07.05

Wednesday Lee Friday

Man, I'm sorry


00:49:08.51

Rhiannoon

it It is what it is.


00:49:09.15

Wednesday Lee Friday

i'm i'm sorry that's uh well i mean and i know that it's it's such a common experience that it's something like a third of us are at least harassed if not molested by the time we turn 10 And then by adulthood, it's it's almost half.


00:49:22.31

Rhiannoon

ah him


00:49:24.69

Wednesday Lee Friday

I mean, it's... it's


00:49:26.50

Rhiannoon

Yeah, it's ridiculous. And once again though, my abusers are dead.


00:49:32.31

Wednesday Lee Friday

Congratulations.


00:49:32.14

Rhiannoon

So...


00:49:32.75

Wednesday Lee Friday

congratulations


00:49:33.48

Rhiannoon

So, yes, my ah my my stepfather passed in 2017 because... um, He's a Vietnam veteran. He was exposed to Agent Orange. He had asthma. he He refused to quit smoking. He was on an oxygen tank while he fucking smoked. I'm surprised he didn't blow himself up. Nevertheless, he was he was my living... proof.


00:49:52.80

Rhiannoon

for years that karma existed and i told him this in his face and he goes oh you so you think i deserve this i i said no i didn't say you deserved it I just said the universe thinks you do.


00:50:05.24

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, seems like. If you believe in a sentient universe, that that is ah another huge topic, I think, probably not suitable for this episode.


00:50:08.96

Rhiannoon

So...


00:50:13.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

but maybe i'll do a panel on that is the universe sentient we'll get people from all different religions


00:50:14.82

Rhiannoon

He was such an asshole


00:50:21.06

Wednesday Lee Friday

That'd be a hell of a talk. um


00:50:22.42

Rhiannoon

Oh, yeah. um Make sure you get someone who's Hindu in there, because that's...


00:50:26.53

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh, absolutely.


00:50:26.60

Rhiannoon

li


00:50:27.04

Wednesday Lee Friday

you got You gotta.


00:50:27.34

Rhiannoon

That's literally them.


00:50:28.61

Wednesday Lee Friday

You gotta.


00:50:28.81

Rhiannoon

asked What?


00:50:30.08

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um.


00:50:29.91

Rhiannoon

What a giant's dream. Anyway.


00:50:34.00

Wednesday Lee Friday

So does your trauma, does do your coping tools, does any of that find its way into your work, your creative work?


00:50:41.44

Rhiannoon

A little bit sometimes. Yeah. um ah Not yet. uh not with ah but it's I'm trying. to become an author. I am trying to become an author. I'm co-writing a book with a friend. um Yeah, i'll I'll definitely record that.


00:50:57.24

Rhiannoon

And. A small excerpt. from that and it's My, my... What's great about this the book that I'm writing is no one is going to believe that those are our real names.


00:51:13.30

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, that's relatable.


00:51:15.75

Rhiannoon

No one is going to believe this book was written by Rhiannon Hart and Ingrid Montenegro. Yeah.


00:51:22.53

Wednesday Lee Friday

No, I get it. Actually, I don't know if you know that I have been transvestigated. by MAGA boys because


00:51:29.26

Rhiannoon

oh


00:51:30.25

Wednesday Lee Friday

I say things online that they don't like.


00:51:29.98

Rhiannoon

yeah i want to


00:51:32.33

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, you know, I have that that book series. I have a political book series that I write under another name. And that name is Ambrose Weaver. So one of the MAGA boys determined that I'm... I'm trans, which, you know, I'm not. I'm cis. I'm a cis chick. AFAB, all that there. um But...


00:51:49.92

Rhiannoon

I'm a demi-woman.


00:51:50.49

Wednesday Lee Friday

that he was so sure that I was a a trans woman and my real name was Ambrose Weaver. And I'm like...


00:51:58.82

Rhiannoon

Oh no.


00:51:58.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

That's...


00:51:59.75

Rhiannoon

I've been told.


00:51:59.94

Wednesday Lee Friday

That's just stunning. that's That is a staggering level of of not. not getting it.


00:52:06.99

Rhiannoon

Yeah, no


00:52:07.37

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um.


00:52:07.74

Rhiannoon

i made I made a post like a couple of days ago. I'm like... The thing that really, one thing that really pisses me off is the simple fact that Laura Loomer and I exist.


00:52:18.27

Rhiannoon

simultaneously, but I'm the one that gets transvestigated.


00:52:22.69

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh dear. Well, I mean, nobody should get transvestigated because the contents of a stranger's underwear are none of anyone's business. We have a school in Michigan right now that wants parents to, they want the girls to turn in their menstrual schedules.


00:52:38.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

So the school can know when they're menstruating and how long their periods last, ostensibly because... uh girls they think are they're lying to get out of swimming class


00:52:49.34

Rhiannoon

If it wouldn't be considered biological warfare, I would just Send them my used... lady. ads. fucking tampons.


00:53:00.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

oh for fuck's sake i mean it's that's that's just insane to me that's insane and parents are not having it i don't i don't think it's gonna actually happen because because parents are very upset


00:53:06.43

Rhiannoon

Yeah. Oh. Yeah, no I know. but but


00:53:14.05

Rhiannoon

So, um...


00:53:15.26

Wednesday Lee Friday

I guess, I mean, I'm not a parent, and obviously I haven't been in school in a long time, but... Why are we even making children put on bathing suits and go swimming at school?


00:53:20.32

Rhiannoon

parent


00:53:24.70

Wednesday Lee Friday

Why is that a requirement for anyone?


00:53:27.00

Rhiannoon

I don't fucking know and I can't swim. Any... I... I'm... it's going to be 40 on valentine's day and i can't fucking swim okay leave me alone


00:53:37.08

Wednesday Lee Friday

Dude, the only reason that I am not terrified of the water is that as a teenager when someone threw me in a pool, in a pool I finally realized that Fat people float. the likely I mean, unless a shark is pulling me under, odds are I can go into any body of water and not sink because I'm fat.


00:53:55.61

Wednesday Lee Friday

And that's one of the advantages of that.


00:53:57.18

Rhiannoon

Okay. Oh, yeah, that's that is definitely one of the advantages of that. And it's just. Oh my god. ah But yeah, the fact that...


00:54:08.80

Rhiannoon

Okay, dear dear parents from that Michigan school, especially mothers. um I swear this has a point. so ah Uh... And for some for some reason, Dollar Tree is getting their Christmas shit out already.


00:54:23.54

Rhiannoon

So.


00:54:23.34

Wednesday Lee Friday

Ew, what? Not even Halloween. That's not cool.


00:54:26.20

Rhiannoon

I know. I know. I know. Anyway. But, uh... Last year, they had these Make Your Own Snow Globe kits. And they're they're pretty airtight and they would actually even be food safe because they have a plastic seal around the bottom.


00:54:40.93

Rhiannoon

and you know, to keep the water in because it's a snow globe, right?


00:54:44.52

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right, right.


00:54:45.78

Rhiannoon

So what you do... is you take your used tampons or pads and just shove them in that thing. And... Yes. And then seal it. Shut.


00:54:59.28

Rhiannoon

real good, and then put it on the principal's desk.


00:55:04.85

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay, only do that in theory, not not in practice. please. Um. We don't condone doing that. Wink. You can't see me winking because it's an audio show.


00:55:17.29

Rhiannoon

Wait, that's not...


00:55:18.24

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um. Actually, you know what? This is the point where we need to take just a quick little break because I got to say the names of the people that give us money on our Ko-fi page.


00:55:28.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

Because as ah some of you know, I guess not everyone, but I'm a disabled creator, but I'm also married, so I don't get disability.


00:55:28.91

Rhiannoon

okay


00:55:35.51

Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't have any sort of like disability ah income. People assume I have it. you know and you see a lady in a wheelchair you assume she's got disabled money coming in but i do not so Aside from what I do with the business, the you know, Scared Soapless, this is one of my major income streams. so um We want to thank Alison Hough, Kathy Martin, Nimue Ravenfall, That One Fool.


00:56:02.75

Wednesday Lee Friday

ah Shannon Fleckenstein, Supporter X. brianna simmons loki That Damn Jim and Bradley and Fred. ah So big thanks to all of them. If you would like to support us, we are on Ko-fi. That's K-O hyphen F-I.


00:56:18.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

uh slash hilarious horror we set up the coffee for the magazine and then after three years of not making a profit and selling collectibles to support it uh we uh we decided to not do that anymore which was a drag but Here we all are.


00:56:35.72

Wednesday Lee Friday

So listen, you, Rhiannon, have indicated a willingness. to discuss a time when you felt in legitimate fear for your life. So what would you like to tell us about that?


00:56:47.95

Rhiannoon

um so my dead ex who got hit by a car and died in 2021 like i said i didn't do it i was at work um And my work was like two hours away from where he was found.


00:56:59.06

Rhiannoon

So anyway. um


00:57:00.33

Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't think anyone's accusing you. Not here anyway.


00:57:03.08

Rhiannoon

You'd be surprised. ah Just so we're clear, I was at work. There are witnesses. ah It's on! There's videos. Cameras. there Anyway. ah But ah no, um he tried to kill me.


00:57:18.88

Rhiannoon

he He did. He tried to kill me. um That was a... It was New Year's Eve. And, um, we were in an argument and I don't remember what the argument was about.


00:57:30.02

Rhiannoon

but me being me and needing to get that last fucking word in just please know if i if i am ever found um deceased under mysterious circumstances i ran my mouth to the bitter fucking end um Please know that.


00:57:46.09

Wednesday Lee Friday

also relatable also relatable


00:57:48.88

Rhiannoon

Please know that. Again, I am not saying that I anyway had this coming because what I did was I called him out on cheating. for the umpteenth fucking time. uh So.


00:58:00.85

Rhiannoon

I was. Again, I was with this man from between the ages of 19 and 20. Yeah. I don't think... No one is dumber.


00:58:12.32

Rhiannoon

than what they are. when they are but late in their late teens and early 20s. Like.


00:58:16.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh dude, that's that's like the argument for why Twilight is a horror show.


00:58:21.83

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


00:58:21.96

Wednesday Lee Friday

Because could you imagine being stuck for eternity with the kind of guy you thought was cool when you were like... 16 to 20. My God.


00:58:31.53

Rhiannoon

And your brain's never going to develop past that either. Anyway...


00:58:35.15

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right, right. That's the thing. that That amygdala isn't going anywhere. That whole frontal lobe is staying right how it is.


00:58:41.76

Rhiannoon

Which is why I love the new Interview with the Vampire series because they touch up on that.


00:58:47.37

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh no, I haven't seen it yet. That's got, uh...


00:58:49.00

Rhiannoon

so


00:58:50.34

Wednesday Lee Friday

Torgan Udo from Game of Thrones in it. Isn't he like one of the main guys?


00:58:54.16

Rhiannoon

yeah yeah Yeah, Jacob Anderson. Oh, he is... a And he gets to emote. He actually gets to emote in this series.


00:59:01.01

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh that's fun.


00:59:02.21

Rhiannoon

And. um And Louis' eyes are actually green this time. Like, they are genuinely- green. and i the moment i saw that i'm like nothing can go wrong my louie's eyes are finally green


00:59:17.18

Rhiannoon

Yes, my Louie, goddammit. anyway uh but uh Side note, Sam Reed and I are going to be best friends. uh, the


00:59:24.93

Wednesday Lee Friday

okay


00:59:25.39

Rhiannoon

i The guy who plays Lestat. He and I, he's actually a fan of the books. He has read the books, so which is one of the reasons. And he was born to play this fucking role, I swear to God. and and um But he and I have the same favorite fucking movie, which is...


00:59:39.66

Rhiannoon

Jim Henson's Labyrinth, so. Anyway. ah but But so back to my. harrowing. Tail. um


00:59:49.28

Rhiannoon

So yeah, I called him out on cheating for the umpteenth time and he tried to he he tried to pin me against the wall and suffocate me with a pillow. If it weren't for his buddy.


00:59:57.99

Wednesday Lee Friday

Jesus.


00:59:59.42

Rhiannoon

His buddy Garnet was there and ah Garnet was like. Jimmy, don't do it. and i i Yes, he sounded like a character from King of the Hill. It's fine.


01:00:09.94

Rhiannoon

um


01:00:10.27

Wednesday Lee Friday

mm-hmm


01:00:11.85

Rhiannoon

It's fine. And... Yeah, he God. the fucker off of me and I was for long enough for me to run out of the room and hide in a closet.


01:00:25.37

Rhiannoon

In another closet. And I don't. know exactly how. I managed. toon Get... on the top shelf of the shelving unit of the closet behind some boxes without knocking the boxes.


01:00:42.03

Rhiannoon

Over. Or anything. but like ninja points go to M-me? That fucking evening and I stayed up there for a good 45 minutes when he passed the when he finally passed out drunk.


01:00:57.08

Rhiannoon

And... Like... a garnet apparently was searching for me for at least 20 of those minutes


01:01:03.74

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh my gosh.


01:01:04.83

Rhiannoon

I don't know. He fucking opens the door to the room I'm in. And he's like... Are you in here? He's asleep. And I'm like.


01:01:13.43

Wednesday Lee Friday

No.


01:01:14.39

Rhiannoon

Are you sure? He's like, he saw in logs. And I'm like. And i I move one of the boxes and I reveal my fucking face. How the fuck did you get up there? I'm like, I don't know.


01:01:27.99

Rhiannoon

But can you help?


01:01:28.26

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um...


01:01:29.33

Rhiannoon

like I don't know, but can you help me down?


01:01:33.13

Wednesday Lee Friday

Jesus. Okay, listen, I'm going to say something to you, and I don't know if you're going to like it. But I'm going to share. ah something because I think it's important. Um,


01:01:44.33

Wednesday Lee Friday

When I was in my early 20s, still living with my parents, I needed to move out of there because, you know, they're they're abusive. It was a nightmare house. And after going to college, I had like a lower tolerance for being treated badly. by my family.


01:01:59.75

Wednesday Lee Friday

And so I moved in with this cab driver. And he was an alcoholic. He was the kind of alcoholic that's like physically addicted to alcohol. So if he didn't drink, he was sick.


01:02:11.01

Wednesday Lee Friday

And he was violent and he had guns.


01:02:13.77

Rhiannoon

I'll do.


01:02:13.90

Wednesday Lee Friday

And. Yeah, yeah, it was it was a really bad situation. um That I eventually, you know, some friends helped me out of it. And, you know, I was like homeless for a short time and then couch surfing for a while. But, you know, later.


01:02:28.80

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um. I met another guy. who was uh you know he was i i called him a drinker he was also an alcoholic but he was a different kind of alcoholic um And so he he was a binge drinker. So he could go for days or weeks without drinking. But once he had a drink in his hand, he was going to drink and drink and drink until he couldn't lift his hand to his face anymore.


01:02:50.94

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um. And he was also physically abusive, but in a different way and without the intensity, insanity, and frequency of what I had been through with the other boyfriend.


01:03:03.50

Wednesday Lee Friday

And the point that I am making is that. If you are in an extremely abusive relationship. and then the next relationship you're in is way way way less abusive that Doesn't. necessarily mean that it's not abusive at all or that the things that are happening are okay.


01:03:24.01

Wednesday Lee Friday

obviously it is up to you to decide what is okay for yourself but i very much see a parallel


01:03:27.81

Rhiannoon

Mm-hmm.


01:03:30.72

Wednesday Lee Friday

in what you're telling me. you know, with, with what I went to. And maybe that like clouds my judgment because I. i you know seeing it through my own lens, I think.


01:03:41.98

Wednesday Lee Friday

you know, maybe your situation is like mine and it may not be, you know, I've never met your boyfriend. I don't know what he's like, but if you.


01:03:48.97

Rhiannoon

hes


01:03:49.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

If you have been conditioned to accept abuse.


01:03:49.60

Rhiannoon

he is ra


01:03:54.00

Wednesday Lee Friday

that's That's kind of a shitty term because it diminishes you and it shouldn't because that's not what I'm trying to say.


01:03:58.25

Rhiannoon

what We are in therapy.


01:04:02.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. i just I just wanted to say that because it... it felt very glaring to me. you know, based on my own experience.


01:04:08.29

Rhiannoon

I have to pee. I understand. We are in therapy. The story I told you about my current fiance, about where I almost stabbed his ass, we did bring up in therapy. So we are. we are but We have moved forward. We have gotten through it. I've gotten my fucking apology. We're good.


01:04:24.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, that's great.


01:04:24.84

Rhiannoon

So...


01:04:25.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

It's great that you're doing the work. I'm i' really happy to hear that. Listen, I want to go to a new topic if we can.


01:04:30.76

Rhiannoon

I'm so fucking literally.


01:04:32.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

Because you have done burlesque and I'm intrigued and I want to hear more.


01:04:32.14

Rhiannoon

Totally. that


01:04:37.17

Rhiannoon

Yes, um... In my early 20s, I was way hotter than Yeah. And. i was I was hot and I was stupid, but I was... um Also,


01:04:47.81

Rhiannoon

hey got Hey, word to the wise, if you're going to make a corset out of duct tape... Don't do it that tight! No. Almost passed out.


01:04:56.49

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:04:56.54

Rhiannoon

it


01:04:57.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, one to grow on, kids.


01:04:59.40

Rhiannoon

Yeah. ah he ah So yeah, ah fun stuff there. we um you had a great But uh, my uh... My burlesque name was Marie de la Noire.


01:05:12.37

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:05:13.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah.


01:05:13.64

Rhiannoon

Yeah. um Which, um, Malik? ah did actually come from a the The Anne Rice novel, Merrick. Um.


01:05:24.01

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:05:25.29

Rhiannoon

Merrick Mayfair. is the main character in that. And her the French name, ah the name Merrick in French is Merrick. which Hers is actually the masculine.


01:05:37.33

Rhiannoon

Name for some reason? She preferred to go by the masculine version of the name rather than


01:05:42.92

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:05:43.95

Rhiannoon

rather than the feminine French version. So I just ran with the feminine French version. Does it sound cool?


01:05:51.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:05:52.54

Rhiannoon

Because it sounded burlesque-y?


01:05:56.41

Rhiannoon

And... ah But yeah, my and my moniker was the Wicked Witch of the Midwest.


01:06:03.08

Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice.


01:06:03.15

Rhiannoon

And. And now. ah most of my um My TikTok videos. our Hello, my darling. witches, witchlings, bitches, and bitchlings.


01:06:15.45

Rhiannoon

It is, tis I, your favoritest Wicked Witch of the Midwest. um


01:06:21.26

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wait, do you have a link tree because I want to put all these links up where people can see them


01:06:24.51

Rhiannoon

um I need to update my link tree. So as soon as I...


01:06:27.38

Wednesday Lee Friday

you and Yeah, you do need to. So yeah, let me know after you do that so I can make sure and put it in the description so we can find your projects because


01:06:29.21

Rhiannoon

So.


01:06:33.14

Rhiannoon

Absolutely. Yeah, no problem.


01:06:35.53

Wednesday Lee Friday

that's That's some shit I need to watch.


01:06:37.76

Rhiannoon

Uh. It's like You can find some of... my burlesque stuff still on YouTube. um I did a lot of stuff down in Indianapolis a little bit in Lafayette.


01:06:49.72

Rhiannoon

um And ah but most of my stuff was from. ah Indianapolis with ah Angel Burlesque at... uh it's no longer there which makes me sad but they had a crackers comedy club in broad ripple


01:07:04.37

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:07:05.09

Rhiannoon

Which was fucking awesome. and ah my My favorite. um My favorite performance I did was their spring scream. ah Where. um what i How I did this. And this was a two-person burlesque.


01:07:21.79

Rhiannoon

um Act. I had a black backdrop and my friend was in a black morph suit behind me. Well, I stood there and I sang the song um Rev 2220 by Pussifer.


01:07:36.92

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh wow.


01:07:37.03

Rhiannoon

which is Yeah, which is, ah the song itself is on the first Underworld movie soundtrack. It's the song that plays during the credit roll. And. um


01:07:48.13

Rhiannoon

it's It's sexy. It's blasphemous. It's perfect. uh but my my friend was the one as i sang this song my friend undressed me as we did it And it just kind of looked like hands came out of fucking nowhere.


01:08:02.25

Rhiannoon

It was really fucking cool.


01:08:02.81

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh, Cool.


01:08:04.58

Rhiannoon

It was a really, really good act. That was my favorite act. Hmm. that I have ever done.


01:08:12.22

Wednesday Lee Friday

That's amazing.


01:08:13.82

Rhiannoon

Yep.


01:08:15.09

Wednesday Lee Friday

And you also describe yourself as a digital creator. Um. though is it Is that the same as a graphic artist?


01:08:23.08

Rhiannoon

Unfortunately, no, it is not. A digital creator would be like, again, someone who does YouTube, TikTok, ah like influencer stuff, but not... ah popular enough to be an influencer at the same time. But I... But I do double but i did take graphic design in high school. So I do actually have.


01:08:42.25

Rhiannoon

some talent there. So if anyone wants, I can make you really cute personalized planner pages. and stuff.


01:08:50.11

Wednesday Lee Friday

Sweet.


01:08:50.40

Rhiannoon

one


01:08:51.47

Wednesday Lee Friday

Sweet, and we should probably have a link for that too, right?


01:08:55.56

Rhiannoon

Okay.


01:08:55.85

Wednesday Lee Friday

Alright. So.


01:08:56.54

Rhiannoon

As soon as I make it. As soon as I make it, because I'm working on making an Etsy shop as well with ah digital downloads and such.


01:09:03.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

Ew, Etsy? No, you're not supposed to use Etsy. They're bad.


01:09:07.31

Rhiannoon

don't I didn't know that now. thanks I know that now.


01:09:10.99

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, yeah, that's actually why we're at coffee because we i was gonna set up a team page for scared sopless and it was


01:09:10.90

Rhiannoon

I didn't know that. it


01:09:18.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right around the time that we found out. Like I was on the fence about Etsy because they sell a lot of serial killer merch. And I don't. I don't find that appropriate. I don't find it funny to put John Wayne Gacy on a bowl and sell it with a spoon and call it a serial killer bowl. Like I don't.


01:09:37.38

Wednesday Lee Friday

You know, I think that's, I mean, the families of his victims are still alive for fuck's sake.


01:09:40.06

Rhiannoon

but Isn't that... Peace. I'm so sorry.


01:09:43.03

Wednesday Lee Friday

you know


01:09:43.25

Rhiannoon

I am kind of laughing. I'm sorry. I'm like i'm sorry.


01:09:45.88

Wednesday Lee Friday

no i get it i get it i mean i i am a fan of black humor i write it i consume it


01:09:50.91

Rhiannoon

those like


01:09:52.09

Wednesday Lee Friday

You know, I totally get it. But... to to profit from that, I think is obscene.


01:09:57.96

Rhiannoon

it it is


01:09:58.37

Wednesday Lee Friday

And so, but the. But, I mean...


01:09:59.63

Rhiannoon

it is a little tasteless it is a little tasteless and it would It would be better if they used a fictional serial killer, okay?


01:10:07.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right.


01:10:07.40

Rhiannoon

You got- from.


01:10:08.12

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right. Yeah, I mean, do that with Hannibal Lecter.


01:10:09.71

Rhiannoon

You got it.


01:10:11.30

Wednesday Lee Friday

I'd buy the shit out of Hannibal Lecter cookware.


01:10:12.72

Rhiannoon

Yeah, you owe them.


01:10:13.67

Wednesday Lee Friday

Please.


01:10:13.54

Rhiannoon

Do it with ghost face. Do it with... Hey! Pick a fucking Ryan Murphy series, guys. Come on.


01:10:20.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right? any old one except the ones about real serial killers, okay? So.


01:10:26.23

Rhiannoon

Fair enough. Yeah, whoops. Forgot about those for two seconds. Also, you see he's doing a Lizzie Borden one? I'm scared.


01:10:33.31

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, i don't I don't have high hopes. Honestly... I hate to say it, but Ryan Murphy is kind of losing his shine for me. because of all of the real life stuff he's doing and


01:10:41.82

Rhiannoon

but more story Please just stick with America.


01:10:45.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

I mean...


01:10:46.24

Rhiannoon

horror story. Bring Scream Queens back! That was fucking genius!


01:10:49.43

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep. Yep. Because when he tells personal stories... he doesn't tell them right. He sensationalizes real people's lives.


01:10:55.96

Rhiannoon

No, he wasn't.


01:10:57.90

Wednesday Lee Friday

Because, you know, Daryl Hannah is not in the the habit of making public statements about her life.


01:11:03.84

Rhiannoon

the earth


01:11:04.06

Wednesday Lee Friday

But she felt absolutely slandered by that JFK Jr. shit. End. you know and so she had to speak out about it that's that's not okay it's not okay


01:11:10.72

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:11:14.95

Rhiannoon

and


01:11:16.18

Wednesday Lee Friday

to


01:11:16.04

Rhiannoon

She is great. Beauty is fucking great! Stick to fictional shit! Quit!


01:11:23.10

Rhiannoon

When when I watch When when I watch...


01:11:23.67

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep.


01:11:27.11

Rhiannoon

Anything, even a biopic about anybody real I am looking for. accuracy i am not looking for since No way.


01:11:34.04

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep. Yep.


01:11:35.56

Rhiannoon

Show me the monster they fucking- are like okay when If and when we get a BTK... Something? Because it's inevitable we're going to get it right. Um,


01:11:49.12

Rhiannoon

Yeah, show me what made- People think he was fucking human. but don't humanize them in the process.


01:11:56.05

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, I mean I think there are valid reasons to humanize people because I think it's important that we be aware.


01:11:57.77

Rhiannoon

That's it.


01:12:04.10

Wednesday Lee Friday

that people who seem absolutely great. might be horrible. And, you know, since MAGA, we know that more and more. It's like, oh, I used to laugh at that guy's show all the time.


01:12:10.60

Rhiannoon

um


01:12:12.66

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oops, white supremacists, damn it.


01:12:15.02

Rhiannoon

walker Yeah, I know


01:12:17.05

Wednesday Lee Friday

but but that's the thing about etsy is that like that is one of those things that I was trying to see both sides of. But.


01:12:24.86

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:12:25.65

Wednesday Lee Friday

Once they were called out about Alligator Alcatraz merch and then said it was fine.


01:12:29.88

Rhiannoon

on my own. Okay.


01:12:31.99

Wednesday Lee Friday

that That was it for me. I was like nope.


01:12:34.20

Rhiannoon

Fair enough. Fair enough. so


01:12:36.35

Wednesday Lee Friday

So that would be my reasoning. You know, that's my reasoning for avoiding Etsy. And I'm telling it to you so you can know it, not necessarily so you can change your mind about it, because that's certainly something that you want to go into with your eyes open.


01:12:49.82

Rhiannoon

Right, right. It's like... and I'm that person that... you know Again, I know, like... My dad's side of the family doesn't all fucking particularly care for me a whole hell of a lot. I know this. Does it stop me from showing up to family events such as Thanksgiving and Christmas? Absolutely not. One Christmas, one Christmas I showed up dressed as, um...


01:13:12.86

Rhiannoon

I write Sins Not Tragedies by Panic! at the Disco.


01:13:16.07

Wednesday Lee Friday

ha


01:13:18.18

Rhiannoon

Yeah. ah oh some


01:13:20.13

Wednesday Lee Friday

Nice.


01:13:20.99

Rhiannoon

Ugh. Okay. My cousin got the joke and she wasn't nearly as amused. uh As ah the younger kids, like my daughter and my other little cousin who got the joke and thought it was fucking genius. um And all the older people were just like, oh, you're so festive. I'm like, yeah, thank you.


01:13:43.10

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah.


01:13:45.27

Rhiannoon

and Like, like, I'm not like mike my grandmother, she passed away at the age of 94 last year. um Last May. right before my daughter's graduation and birthday which really or yeah two years ago sorry which really sucked but i but And I do. I miss her very much.


01:14:03.98

Rhiannoon

But... You know, I wasn't going to sit there and tell my 90-some-year-old grandmother, like, no, this is... this this is This is a big fuck you to Aunt Vivian, but that's beside the point.


01:14:15.33

Rhiannoon

So I wasn't about to tell her that.


01:14:17.99

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right. so um So you are working on a book right now.


01:14:19.59

Rhiannoon

we


01:14:21.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

And I want to know everything about it. I'm especially intrigued. Because you are collaborating on it. And collaboration is something that I so rarely do, even with H. I have so much difficulty collaborating. So I want to hear about the book itself, but also about your experience writing it.


01:14:39.92

Rhiannoon

So it's... uh i'm I just started on like chapter 14. um Not too long ago. It's called Bella Donna Manor. if these walls could whisper. it's it's going It's the first part in a series um that we're working on. We've been working on this book for a couple of years now.


01:14:55.44

Rhiannoon

um It's... The idea of the book came about while me at my friend Ingrid she lives in Australia actually so So every time we collaborate it's...


01:15:07.61

Rhiannoon

uh via Bye. video chats and whatnot. um


01:15:13.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:15:13.87

Rhiannoon

so And she she lives in Australia. but uh her family immigrated there when she was three years old from Columbia. So this.


01:15:24.80

Rhiannoon

So we were sitting there, we had synced up our TVs, our Netflix to watch Bridgerton.


01:15:31.23

Wednesday Lee Friday

Heh heh.


01:15:32.26

Rhiannoon

Yeah, and I'm like and I'm sitting there i'm like I love this aesthetic, but can we make it goth?


01:15:39.74

Rhiannoon

And that's That's where the idea, the basic idea for this book came about. and So it's...


01:15:47.68

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:15:48.46

Rhiannoon

So it's it's a little bit Bridgerton coded and you can see that there's also references. to other horror movies and icons as well as um ah it's It's also very...


01:16:04.01

Rhiannoon

Audie HD Latina coded because my friend is very Latina. um And it's just... it's It's great. It's love. i've i' have I've been having a. very fun time reading it and it it is a it's so It's been a world building experience.


01:16:25.04

Rhiannoon

And. it's It's about this this family and their kids who live in... A. in Belladonna Manor.


01:16:38.24

Rhiannoon

they um It was a... present from it was a wedding present from his From. Uh, We have Dario and Drusilla Damask.


01:16:51.13

Rhiannoon

the damask family


01:16:52.93

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:16:54.16

Rhiannoon

And that that is our main family, the Damasks. And we have.


01:16:59.75

Rhiannoon

Dario and Drusilla. And Dario is a... Dario's father. Um, Alfred. Yep. Alfred.


01:17:10.67

Rhiannoon

ah But Belladonna Manor, it was... formerly a It was formerly like a church that. He bought and then...


01:17:22.31

Rhiannoon

renovated to be a home for his family complete with Like. ballroom, grand dining areas and all that stuff. they have They have the area of the main house and then the back of the house is just...


01:17:35.92

Rhiannoon

Yeah, where they throw parties. basically.


01:17:39.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:17:40.20

Rhiannoon

And... Because... What are you going to do with all that fucking space? Well, anyway, it's haunted and a couple of their kids can actually see and converse with the ghost.


01:17:52.03

Rhiannoon

There's also secret passageways. Manor actually has a very dark. history Um. And... we've been building on that and again if you are if you are a fan of horror movies And.


01:18:08.83

Rhiannoon

things like that there's and and the And Buffy, if you're a big fan of Buffy, again, Drusilla is clearly from that. Um.


01:18:19.33

Rhiannoon

It's...


01:18:20.06

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:18:20.73

Rhiannoon

We have definitely coded this. It's very goth coded. It's very ADHD coded. It's very Latino coded. It's... just a lot of fun and I've been having a blast writing this.


01:18:32.90

Rhiannoon

uh we have like i said we have um The Isle of Curry. Guess who we named that after? Um.


01:18:40.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

the The original VJ from MTV, Adam Curry?


01:18:44.97

Rhiannoon

No.


01:18:45.74

Wednesday Lee Friday

ah


01:18:48.76

Rhiannoon

That was a good deep.


01:18:49.12

Wednesday Lee Friday

Sorry, I'm just...


01:18:50.02

Rhiannoon

oh Thank you.


01:18:51.14

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right. Old person joke.


01:18:53.85

Rhiannoon

I was fucking good. I remember who I was.


01:18:55.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

Take your back, girls.


01:18:56.82

Rhiannoon

a I remember that vaguely, but I fucking remember. I like it Yeah, I know.


01:19:02.12

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wait, let me see if I can do it because it's Adam Curry.


01:19:02.10

Rhiannoon

i was pump


01:19:04.79

Wednesday Lee Friday

There was Alan Hunter. Martha Quinn, Nina Blackwood, and... ah Mark Goodson.


01:19:13.02

Rhiannoon

Don't forget swag.


01:19:13.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

Goodman, Mark Goodman. I think Mark Goodson was. a game show producer. um But yeah, yeah, the original VJs. um So, so wait, so.


01:19:25.24

Wednesday Lee Friday

So um I think I understand like the the tone and and the theme of the book, but. what's like So you have Zooms with your co-author?


01:19:34.66

Rhiannoon

here


01:19:34.84

Wednesday Lee Friday

and And that's how you're you're collabing?


01:19:37.15

Rhiannoon

Yep.


01:19:37.62

Wednesday Lee Friday

So it's not, ah are you writing separately and then getting together to to compare what you've written or are you writing like during the Zoom sessions?


01:19:37.72

Rhiannoon

that's a good


01:19:45.25

Rhiannoon

Both, actually. We also um we also have a google shared Google Doc. So.


01:19:50.21

Wednesday Lee Friday

oh okay Yeah. That makes sense. So when when can we read it?


01:19:53.81

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:19:56.51

Wednesday Lee Friday

what What's your ETA?


01:19:56.32

Rhiannoon

Whenever it's fun. Whatever it is.


01:19:58.80

Wednesday Lee Friday

yeah


01:19:59.56

Rhiannoon

because um I'll let you know, I promise. Because like I said, I just started on chapter 14, which means I'm about halfway done. Uh... with it. So.


01:20:09.01

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:20:09.84

Rhiannoon

because Because my... Because my plan is to get it done. To have at least 30 or so chapters. between 28 and 30 chapters.


01:20:17.40

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:20:18.88

Rhiannoon

and be at least 100 ,000 words, I think, or 50. Yeah. Yeah, 100 ,000 words. So.


01:20:27.68

Wednesday Lee Friday

All right.


01:20:27.59

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:20:28.87

Wednesday Lee Friday

all right cool and then you're going to do a reading from that so we'll have it at the end of the episode


01:20:33.97

Rhiannoon

Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely.


01:20:36.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

Alright, sweet. Sweet. Now, I want to talk about something that happened to me online recently, and I know that you're aware of it because we commented on it briefly. I was just scrolling through my feed, minding my own business, and another writer that I was friends with was talking about how Jenny Gump is the villain of Forrest Gump. He he doubled down on calling Jenny Gump a piece of shit.


01:21:03.93

Rhiannoon

ah


01:21:04.94

Wednesday Lee Friday

And I am aware. that like I was aware that there were people who thought that, but I thought it was just a shitty incel mindset. from entitled men who blame women for their problems.


01:21:13.49

Rhiannoon

and


01:21:16.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

um


01:21:16.94

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:21:17.67

Wednesday Lee Friday

what what What do you think is going on there?


01:21:20.03

Rhiannoon

Again, I just I think it's ignorance on how addiction works. Truly, I really do. I really do think it's a.


01:21:25.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

And abuse and trauma.


01:21:28.21

Rhiannoon

Yeah, again, if anyone... if anyone was BPD. It was Jenny.


01:21:35.83

Rhiannoon

If anyone.


01:21:36.31

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, I mean...


01:21:37.81

Rhiannoon

Anyone in fiction, head BPD. Jenny, absolutely. head. BPD. um Because God damn it. Uh... She had... trauma. which And then, you know that that she she sought to numb those feelings. And a lot of people would be, I don't know how I have managed to just.


01:22:00.14

Rhiannoon

not become a drug addict. like bio rights and technicality i should be a drug addict and or a serial killer but i'm not Um. So. How she- But I know for a fact that a lot of people... with BPD.


01:22:15.71

Rhiannoon

seek self-soothing behaviors, and a lot of that leads to drug addiction. You know, it's not just BPD, it's also ADHD.


01:22:20.96

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep. Yep.


01:22:24.01

Rhiannoon

Hi. ah


01:22:25.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, and CPTSD. I mean, the thing that I see in Jenny predominantly is that.


01:22:28.53

Rhiannoon

yeah but


01:22:32.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

because she was molested by her dad. She grew up thinking she was dirty and wrong. And the only way that she could relate to other people, the only value she thought she had was in her sexuality, which is why she was posing for Playboy.


01:22:39.79

Rhiannoon

And.


01:22:45.99

Rhiannoon

Precisely. and


01:22:48.15

Wednesday Lee Friday

and you know,


01:22:49.98

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:22:50.43

Wednesday Lee Friday

Singing naked in clubs.


01:22:50.31

Rhiannoon

And that's, and that goes on.


01:22:51.95

Wednesday Lee Friday

and


01:22:52.33

Rhiannoon

people who grew up in a severely religious setting. um i don't know if you're familiar with this influencer her name is monty mater she is amazing If you don't know who that is, check her out.


01:23:03.49

Wednesday Lee Friday

No.


01:23:03.50

Rhiannoon

i've got you don't say here in like


01:23:04.72

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay.


01:23:06.11

Rhiannoon

I've got to wake my fiance up here in like 15 minutes. Sorry. Uh. but Ciao. i just Fucking hit my knee. it's fine Uh.


01:23:17.62

Wednesday Lee Friday

But as far as I can tell, it seems like this mindset is based on the idea that Forrest loved Jenny. And when the first time he asked her to marry him. She said no.


01:23:28.45

Wednesday Lee Friday

And then she left in the middle of the night, which is not great. That's not great behavior. you know I wish that she had communicated better.


01:23:32.66

Rhiannoon

it's not


01:23:35.79

Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't think that that means that she's the villain of the piece.


01:23:35.72

Rhiannoon

yeah


01:23:39.21

Rhiannoon

Absolutely not, no, if anyone's the villain of the piece. fucking government, but that's beside the point.


01:23:46.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, I would argue that Lieutenant Dan treated Forrest just as badly, if not- worse because he was overtly mean to him.


01:23:55.24

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:23:55.65

Wednesday Lee Friday

You know?


01:23:56.57

Rhiannoon

he He purposely pushed him away like so many times, but...


01:24:01.57

Wednesday Lee Friday

And then he just dropped out of his life. you know, for years and years.


01:24:04.08

Rhiannoon

Bye! Yeah.


01:24:06.16

Wednesday Lee Friday

So if we're going to blame people for the things that have happened to them. Then, yeah, Lieutenant.


01:24:10.77

Rhiannoon

the fund and the man who did the same thing.


01:24:12.45

Wednesday Lee Friday

Dan's behavior is just as bad.


01:24:14.78

Rhiannoon

Yeah. It's like, blame the don't just blame the woman, blame the man who also did the same shit. Like, calm down.


01:24:19.71

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right?


01:24:20.78

Rhiannoon

Peace.


01:24:20.85

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right? But yeah, I... it It astonishes me that someone who thinks they're a feminist can watch that movie and come away with Jenny as as the villain.


01:24:30.20

Rhiannoon

yeah


01:24:30.27

Wednesday Lee Friday

It's it's just because.


01:24:30.74

Rhiannoon

it's absolutely wild.


01:24:33.31

Wednesday Lee Friday

The reason that that whole thing is in the movie is because it's so socially relevant.


01:24:33.42

Rhiannoon

Like, I have...


01:24:38.77

Wednesday Lee Friday

that that is the case for so many girls that have that happen.


01:24:38.96

Rhiannoon

Yeah. i along


01:24:42.98

Wednesday Lee Friday

They grow up, they don't get treatment, they don't understand what happens to them. These are the kind of issues we didn't use to talk about.


01:24:50.17

Rhiannoon

Yeah, because it wasn't nice


01:24:50.54

Wednesday Lee Friday

So you could go through your whole life not really realizing that that might have happened to your friend or, you know, one of your classmates or people that you could have been talking to about it.


01:25:01.68

Wednesday Lee Friday

and And understanding that like, A, this is bad. B, you didn't deserve it. that that like they're the bad one not you like all these very basic things eluded people because we weren't talking about it so they put it in a movie they put it right there in your face and still dudes are like oh that bitch man she should have married him like what What is that?


01:25:15.28

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:25:24.24

Wednesday Lee Friday

What even is that? That's the same mindset


01:25:27.75

Rhiannoon

nice


01:25:28.13

Wednesday Lee Friday

that it It is the same mindset you get when a boy shoots up a school. because a girl turned him down. and everybody looks at the girl like it was her fault and What the fuck?


01:25:35.62

Rhiannoon

ahha Yeah, and... and and Unless it was Columbine. Unless it was Columbine. Because remember, the girl who said yes... was a fucking Martyr. for some reason which never happened by the fucking way.


01:25:51.91

Rhiannoon

Ugh. And look, I'm not condoning Columbine. i don't I'm not. i i


01:25:56.11

Wednesday Lee Friday

Obviously.


01:25:56.81

Rhiannoon

those Those kids were fucking assholes. Those kids were shitty little fucking bastards. and Good fucking riddance to back rubbish. but the The girl that... that got the book written about her called She Said Yes, because, you know, allegedly the kid pointed the gun in her face, asked her if she believed in God. She said yes, and he pulled the trigger. Number one, that never fucking happened.


01:26:19.29

Rhiannoon

Number. two Um. I bet she was mean as fuck.


01:26:27.97

Wednesday Lee Friday

yeah I mean, it's impossible to say without having known these people, but


01:26:27.100

Rhiannoon

Like...


01:26:32.05

Rhiannoon

Yeah, um but...


01:26:33.04

Wednesday Lee Friday

there so There does seem to be a trend where... The bullied kids that take up arms are going after specific kids who were not nice to them.


01:26:44.20

Rhiannoon

ahhu Yeah.


01:26:44.66

Wednesday Lee Friday

obviously well but that's another situation where If we don't talk about bullying and take it seriously, then...


01:26:52.13

Rhiannoon

but at the time Those kids are also horny.


01:26:53.09

Wednesday Lee Friday

kids think they're bad they think it's them they hate themselves so you know they're


01:26:56.76

Rhiannoon

Those kids were also a bullies. Like you could ask. any of the kids that were in that school, those kids were also bullies. So it's like. Fuck y 'all. I'm tired.


01:27:07.99

Rhiannoon

but but


01:27:08.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

Sure, sure


01:27:08.85

Rhiannoon

like hi i've had Again, I've had my fair share of bullies. I've had my fair share of getting my ass- picked on the fucking playground, you know? And I had access to guns too.


01:27:20.39

Rhiannoon

I didn't do shit.


01:27:22.16

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, you know, that is something I've said online a few times when people try to excuse behavior by saying, oh, they were bullied. Like, really? You know you're saying that to a fat chick named Wednesday, right?


01:27:33.96

Wednesday Lee Friday

that that kids had a hard time oh did they did they have a hard time yeah my parents are rednecks man we had guns there were like i mean they're my parents bedroom last i knew there was a gun rack with with rifles on it in the bedroom


01:27:33.93

Rhiannoon

Right? Mike.


01:27:48.28

Wednesday Lee Friday

And we're not going to discuss the symbolism of that. at all in any way.


01:27:53.05

Rhiannoon

No.


01:27:54.75

Wednesday Lee Friday

We're actually nearing the end of our time. So I want to make sure.


01:27:56.86

Rhiannoon

Yay.


01:27:58.98

Wednesday Lee Friday

ah that there was did Did we cover everything that you wanted to talk about? Was there anything that you wanted to mention that we did not get to?


01:28:06.09

Rhiannoon

The what is it the women in horror association?


01:28:10.42

Wednesday Lee Friday

the The new one? Yeah.


01:28:11.77

Rhiannoon

Yes. Yeah, something about AI.


01:28:16.24

Wednesday Lee Friday

um Well, we we were going to talk a little bit about AI, but I think it's it's it's established that we don't like gent Gen AI.


01:28:16.97

Rhiannoon

one


01:28:23.52

Wednesday Lee Friday

But yeah, the ums the the Women in Horror Arts and Media Association is is the new association.


01:28:25.55

Rhiannoon

well


01:28:28.94

Rhiannoon

Yes, yes, yes. i Would really love to be.


01:28:31.51

Wednesday Lee Friday

And yeah, I. I joined right away. Because things at at the HWA. Um, i don't I don't think it's it's the right place for me at this point in my career.


01:28:42.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

I... I don't, but I think that a women-focused organization that is just now arranging and so that founding members can can put in some input about.


01:28:55.35

Wednesday Lee Friday

you know, what what we want, what we're looking for. It seems very on the level. um And we can put a link to that in the description as well. Um.


01:29:02.76

Rhiannoon

Cool.


01:29:03.31

Wednesday Lee Friday

Because if you are. a woman or a another, a marginalized gender. Um... you know you You don't have to be AFAB to to be a member, is my understanding. And unlike the Horror Writers Association, this group does not have an earnings threshold.


01:29:21.34

Wednesday Lee Friday

So if you're working your ass off in the horror industry and you love it, even if you are doing it for the love and not making a lot of money at it. That still counts. And that's that's something.


01:29:30.94

Rhiannoon

Because eventually I will.


01:29:32.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

that's always bummed me out about the hwa was that when i first wanted to join you know when my first novel was coming out i'm like yeah this is it this is it well my advance wasn't big enough to meet their threshold so i didn't get to join based on the fact that


01:29:32.74

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:29:46.93

Wednesday Lee Friday

my first horror novel was coming out, even though I'd been doing horror things for some time, you know, internet writing and... You know marketing stuff like that. So it was very discouraging So I like that there's another organization that is starting out.


01:30:02.79

Wednesday Lee Friday

by being encouraging and not discouraging. That's, you know.


01:30:06.25

Rhiannoon

Well, yeah.


01:30:07.20

Wednesday Lee Friday

That already bodes well.


01:30:07.27

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:30:08.15

Wednesday Lee Friday

Are you joining?


01:30:09.74

Rhiannoon

I want to. I definitely absolutely want to because, again, I'm in the process of writing my book. I'm also in the process of getting a YouTube channel set up called Dreadful Delights with Dahlia Nightshade, which is a which is a horror analysis and cooking show with macro-friendly recipes because I've been...


01:30:18.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

Oh nice.


01:30:25.96

Rhiannoon

dieting i i hit my 50 pound mark by the way i've lost 50 pounds since last year so Go me.


01:30:31.68

Wednesday Lee Friday

Wow.


01:30:31.77

Rhiannoon

um


01:30:31.85

Wednesday Lee Friday

All right.


01:30:33.33

Rhiannoon

I'm very proud of myself. ah


01:30:35.28

Wednesday Lee Friday

Cool.


01:30:35.46

Rhiannoon

Have a great day.


01:30:35.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

Cool.


01:30:36.16

Rhiannoon

come


01:30:37.57

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, you know, I'd be having issues with intentional weight loss, but if you are feeling good, then I support you feeling good.


01:30:44.39

Rhiannoon

Hey, i was able I'm able to bend down, tie my shoes, and not go...


01:30:49.01

Wednesday Lee Friday

yeah


01:30:49.21

Rhiannoon

any more Well, yeah.


01:30:51.29

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, you got to have goals.


01:30:51.07

Rhiannoon

it makes me happy


01:30:53.59

Wednesday Lee Friday

so


01:30:53.14

Rhiannoon

nay I'd be really happy that I can do that.


01:30:56.63

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right on.


01:30:56.83

Rhiannoon

and feel like I'm gonna die for just tying my fucking shoes. Anyway, I don't know if you could hear my neighbor's dog barking, but um I live in an apartment.


01:31:01.98

Wednesday Lee Friday

lu you


01:31:06.38

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, my dog is actually being very quiet. I probably just jinxed it by saying that. but


01:31:10.89

Rhiannoon

Yeah, so maybe.


01:31:11.88

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yeah, because her she has a living room crate that I put her in for this because I have to still watch her every minute because she's a puppy.


01:31:17.59

Rhiannoon

yeah But, yeah.


01:31:19.12

Wednesday Lee Friday

And she likes to chew on wires.


01:31:19.09

Rhiannoon

and yeah Like, I'm not a fan of genator generative AI. i'm not do At the same time, AI is here. And it's not going anywhere. So now it's just a matter of ethics.


01:31:31.01

Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't think that's true. I think ah that it it could be going away sooner than we think. A lot of the big AI CEOs have been... I mean, they've been announcing that they're slowing it down, that they they it's going too fast. And I don't.


01:31:47.14

Wednesday Lee Friday

think it is going to.


01:31:47.05

Rhiannoon

Slowing it down is Not a bit.


01:31:48.68

Wednesday Lee Friday

The thing is, it's not going to turn sentient. People seem to be. behaving as if we're we're just about to be in like Battlestar Galactica territory like it's it's gonna come alive or something and and it's not


01:32:01.78

Rhiannoon

yes Something, but...


01:32:04.62

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um,


01:32:04.84

Rhiannoon

I don't think so.


01:32:05.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

And I think.


01:32:06.47

Rhiannoon

and


01:32:07.17

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, right, because I mean, they're replacing people with it and there are enormous problems with it. It's given up false information.


01:32:13.19

Rhiannoon

Exactly.


01:32:14.71

Wednesday Lee Friday

It's given shitty customer service or it's given people absurd discounts that the companies then have to stand by.


01:32:14.86

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:32:22.67

Wednesday Lee Friday

you know


01:32:22.78

Rhiannoon

I mean. I mean, oh no, uh... on that last one. Darn!


01:32:28.74

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right. Right.


01:32:30.33

Rhiannoon

Cool.


01:32:30.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um.


01:32:31.39

Rhiannoon

Get me a car for three bucks. and I'm kidding. um


01:32:34.09

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, no, but that's the thing if you put AI in charge of your shit Guess what? AI's in charge of your shit.


01:32:40.24

Rhiannoon

Yeah.


01:32:40.61

Wednesday Lee Friday

So...


01:32:40.89

Rhiannoon

That's That's where, yeah.


01:32:42.04

Wednesday Lee Friday

And yeah, i think I think because AI is not performing as well as we were told it was going to.


01:32:43.20

Rhiannoon

People are learning.


01:32:48.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

um investors are going to. start i mean because it always it it never comes down to ethics it always comes down to money so when the


01:32:54.34

Rhiannoon

where I just kind of . I just had an argument with a gal yesterday in one of my golf groups, an online argument. she's like, It's... No, it's it's art. And I'm like, no, it the fuck isn't. It's slop.


01:33:07.90

Rhiannoon

It's, it's, it's like, it's not called art. It's called slop. Don't make my art. I don't want AI to make my art. Okay. Again, like I said, I do believe it is a matter of ethics and that it is, and yes, it might be being slowed down, but I. the fact that it's here it's probably not going to go anywhere it's not going to go away overnight it's not going to go away overnight it's like if ai wants to do my spreadsheets because I'm terrible at math, go for it!


01:33:34.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, exactly. Do the stuff that I don't want to do so that I have time to to make art. I mean, they're called the humanities. That's one of the things I think we say most often on this show.


01:33:42.03

Rhiannoon

Exactly.


01:33:45.66

Wednesday Lee Friday

The arts are also called the humanities because they come from humans.


01:33:48.31

Rhiannoon

yeah


01:33:50.24

Wednesday Lee Friday

They are about the human experience. And the best any AI can do is to imitate that.


01:33:56.26

Rhiannoon

Exactly. And like I said, it's a matter of ethics. and um we We need to. Put. laws in place. We need to put laws and legislation in place to CHECK it and that's one of the things that we seem to be having a fucking problem with here And I don't know why.


01:34:15.18

Wednesday Lee Friday

Well, because Okay. because of fascism, I think.


01:34:19.40

Rhiannoon

that


01:34:19.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

But who knows? It's entirely possible if Uncle Elon can't get to the voting numbers this time that the vote will go the right way and things can start to evolve in a better direction.


01:34:32.54

Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't have any hope of anything getting back to normal because that would be like... pre-2016 we can't just go back 10 years but uh But yeah, i'm I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that...


01:34:46.12

Wednesday Lee Friday

Democrats will, uh... have a majority in Congress and we'll be able to. not have a predator in the oval. I think that would be nice.


01:34:54.67

Rhiannoon

mm-hmm


01:34:55.61

Wednesday Lee Friday

Um... Alright, so before we we get to the end, I also like to give guests a chance to ask me a question if they have one. So if you do, now is the time for that.


01:35:08.28

Rhiannoon

asked Every time somebody asks, ask me anything. I always ask the for the same two questions. And the first question is, what's your favorite color?


01:35:16.58

Wednesday Lee Friday

blue


01:35:17.69

Rhiannoon

Awesome. The second question is what are your top five favorite movies of all time?


01:35:22.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

Ooh. All right. Um... So... of I would say Psycho and Night of the Living Dead are... my top horror movies, followed closely by The Mist.


01:35:36.22

Wednesday Lee Friday

And The Long Walk, which was absolutely outstanding. And then off-genre is Cecil B. DeMille's Ten Commandments, the the second one, the one from 1954.


01:35:48.03

Wednesday Lee Friday

But honestly, I also got to put Barbie up there because Barbie is great.


01:35:47.98

Rhiannoon

Uh,


01:35:51.08

Rhiannoon

I am. Barbie gets an honorable mention. I love it. My top five favorites are Jim Henson's Labyrinth. The Last Unicorn, 1982 animated film. Fantastic.


01:36:00.89

Wednesday Lee Friday

Uh huh.


01:36:02.09

Rhiannoon

Um, Interview with the Vampire 1994.


01:36:05.38

Wednesday Lee Friday

Alright.


01:36:06.43

Rhiannoon

Uh. Disney's Princess and the Frog. the


01:36:09.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

yeah Nice, nice.


01:36:11.70

Rhiannoon

And uh... Batman Returns, those five movies. basically encompass my entire personality. number The number six. Spot honorable mention goes to Boy Kills World.


01:36:25.16

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. Alright.


01:36:26.12

Rhiannoon

Which is... You have not seen that. that ah came out year or two ago, stars Bill Skarsgård. And his... He's completely mute? throughout the entire movie but he isn't His inner voice is narrated by H. John Benjamin.


01:36:43.60

Rhiannoon

Bob's Burgers.


01:36:44.75

Wednesday Lee Friday

Yep. Yep


01:36:45.59

Rhiannoon

and Arch. said Archer. So it's... it's It's fantastic. He's deaf and he's mute and he reads lips and he comes across a character named Benny Who is f***ed. speaking with an accent that he doesn't quite understand, so Benny talks gibberish.


01:37:05.52

Wednesday Lee Friday

Whoa.


01:37:04.100

Rhiannoon

It's amazing.


01:37:05.72

Wednesday Lee Friday

whoa


01:37:07.17

Rhiannoon

Apple camels. Dodo buns.


01:37:09.55

Wednesday Lee Friday

Hmm.


01:37:10.21

Rhiannoon

It's the best.


01:37:12.56

Wednesday Lee Friday

All right. So that means that it is now time for the Mad Lib. So I hope you are ready for this.


01:37:19.80

Rhiannoon

Yes.


01:37:19.64

Wednesday Lee Friday

We're going to start with some adjectives. I need one, two, three, four. Five adjectives, I think. Maybe wait, maybe six.


01:37:28.65

Rhiannoon

and


01:37:30.58

Wednesday Lee Friday

I don't know. Start giving me adjectives. I'll be writing them in.


01:37:32.54

Rhiannoon

Love you guys. All right, spooky kooky. Um.


01:37:41.46

Rhiannoon

Let's see spooky cookie. Yeah, I'm working on this. I promise dark feline.


01:37:50.17

Rhiannoon

And...


01:37:54.85

Rhiannoon

I know feline could be a noun too, but it's... In this case, it's an adjective. We can do that.


01:37:58.81

Wednesday Lee Friday

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.


01:38:00.01

Rhiannoon

We understand nuance here.


01:38:03.70

Rhiannoon

And rock.


01:38:04.20

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right. Rock. Actually, I had miscounted. I need one more.


01:38:08.54

Rhiannoon

Oh, you need one more. Um, Oops. see. fiery.


01:38:17.51

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay, now I need some singular nouns. Looks like one, two... 3.


01:38:25.19

Rhiannoon

Sasquatch.


01:38:28.86

Rhiannoon

Which?


01:38:38.81

Rhiannoon

Paris.


01:38:43.07

Wednesday Lee Friday

Paris?


01:38:44.56

Rhiannoon

It's a noun. Person, place, or thing.


01:38:45.83

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. Fair enough. All right. So I need plural nouns. I need one, two. Three.


01:38:55.60

Rhiannoon

right boys Shows.


01:39:02.52

Rhiannoon

and cards


01:39:06.27

Wednesday Lee Friday

okay so this one is asking for person in room male and we don't have any of those so why don't we go with famous males i need two of them


01:39:18.92

Rhiannoon

Jason Patrick and Kiefer Sutherland.


01:39:23.95

Wednesday Lee Friday

okay now there's also person in room female and that is always the guest


01:39:25.13

Rhiannoon

I stayed right in my office.


01:39:29.36

Wednesday Lee Friday

And then for the last one, it's person in room male, but I'm going to just put myself because I don't care if I am. a


01:39:36.78

Rhiannoon

I looked right at my Lost Boys poster, sorry.


01:39:39.25

Wednesday Lee Friday

ah Well, that's absolutely cool. So now I need an animal.


01:39:46.52

Rhiannoon

Okay, an animal, um, a giraffe.


01:39:57.91

Wednesday Lee Friday

okay that's weird all right um no the the thing i'm writing is is weird and one uh verb


01:40:06.13

Rhiannoon

verb. Toss.


01:40:09.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

Okay. So this is called Summer Movie Reviews.


01:40:14.48

Rhiannoon

Oh boy.


01:40:14.82

Wednesday Lee Friday

It's summer! And you know what that means. Spooky weather. Ice cold Sasquatchsicles! And... Big blockbusters.


01:40:26.44

Wednesday Lee Friday

Check out what's coming to A Witch Near You this summer.


01:40:26.60

Rhiannoon

All right.


01:40:31.38

Wednesday Lee Friday

Boys of the Caribbean Captain Jason Patrick and his band of kooky scallywags Take to the dark seas in search of buried shows.


01:40:43.22

Wednesday Lee Friday

The big feline ogre. A cranky ogre named Kiefer Sutherland. And his sidekick.


01:40:50.19

Rhiannoon

Okay.


01:40:50.72

Wednesday Lee Friday

A giraffe named giraffe. And a rocky gang of fairy tale creatures go on a search. and Oh, a search and toss mission to rescue Princess Rhiannon.


01:41:03.94

Wednesday Lee Friday

from a tower guarded by fire-breathing Paris. The boy wizard. Ugh. A fiery boy discovers he possesses magical cards that he must use to defeat the evil wizard, Lord Wedness.


01:41:23.76

Wednesday Lee Friday

All right. Quite the lib. Could have done without the boy wizard at the end, but I don't write them.


01:41:29.28

Rhiannoon

Yay.


01:41:29.78

Wednesday Lee Friday

I just do them.


01:41:33.43

Wednesday Lee Friday

All right, cool. Well, that ah that brings us to a close. Thank you so much for being here, Rhiannon. That was a great talk.


01:41:41.16

Rhiannoon

I enjoyed that. We should do it again sometime.


01:41:43.96

Wednesday Lee Friday

Right on. um And we want to remind listeners to find us on Ko-fi if they so desire. we will be um We always have a little extra information about our guests over there, links to their stuff, and hints about who's coming up on future episodes. So, ah you know, go on over there if you want to and stay tuned.


01:42:05.60

Wednesday Lee Friday

for a reading from Rhiannon, and then we'll see everybody next week.


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